Official Michael Jordan 'The Last Dance' Doc Thread (NO SPOILERS)

[GoldenGlove]

Craig Hodges: 'Jordan didn't speak out because he didn't know what to say'

Hodges always wanted to voice his opposition to injustice. In June 1991, before the first game of the NBA finals between the Bulls and the LA Lakers, Hodges tried to convince Jordan and Magic Johnson that both teams should stage a boycott. Rodney King, an African American, had been beaten brutally by four white policemen in Los Angeles three months earlier – while 32% of the black population in Illinois lived below the poverty line.

As he writes in his new book Longshot: The Triumphs and Struggles of an NBA Freedom Fighter, Hodges told the sport’s two leading players that the Bulls and Lakers should sit out the opening game, so “we would stand in solidarity with the black community while calling out racism and economic inequality in the NBA, where there were no black owners and almost no black coaches despite the fact that 75% of the players in the league were African American”.

Jordan told Hodges he was “crazy” while Johnson said: “That’s too extreme, man.”

“What’s happening to our people in this country is extreme,” Hodges replied.

I'm sorry, but the producers skimming over Hodges story with the Bulls when there's articles like this out there is why I feel like this series is watered down.

Don't hype it as real and telling like it is, and then leave shyt out for convenience.

 

[GoldenGlove]

So while I love the doc for what it is - kinda a video autobiography - I’m gonna need an objective, third party doc to be made as well that covers life on and off the court. First wife, retirement and baseball, dad’s death, diving more into his larger than life popularity, interviews with Bugs Bunny and the Monstars

I agree 100 percent.

This is like a PG-13 version. A 3rd Party with no ESPN or NBA ties would unpack way more

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I agree 100 percent.

This is like a PG-13 version. A 3rd Party with no ESPN or NBA ties would unpack way more

It could have espn ties, or at least aired there, the OJ doc did it masterfully. But it just can’t be the Nike and MJ involved and approved documentary

 

[Ziggiy]

love the doc

I dont wanna deflect but I did find it odd when the done a quick comparison with Ali n Jordan pertaining to race matters

Now I love Ali but people forget how he treated a certain someone leading up to one of his main fights

The way Ali treated Frazier was fukked up and he admitted it. But there is NOTHING...I repeat NOTHING that can take away or lessen the fact that Ali sacrificed his entire prime and stood up against the war and for black people. “No Vietcong ever called me ******”. Thats the most powerful statement ANY black athlete has ever said

 

[Ziggiy]

44:42

Why the F U C K does Jalen Rose look like he’s been bleaching

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

The way Ali treated Frazier was fukked up and he admitted it. But there is NOTHING...I repeat NOTHING that can take away or lessen the fact that Ali sacrificed his entire prime and stood up against the war and for black people. “No Vietcong ever called me ******”. Thats the most powerful statement ANY black athlete has ever said

Yup. To me, that was his "republicans buy sneakers" moment. One mistake shouldn't define a man's entire legacy nor should it be brought up every single time the man is being celebrated or even talked about. It's unnecessary. His contributions to and for black people are too vast to use that as a point to bring him down.

But some folks have this incessant need to always highlight a man's faults especially - probably only - when that man is black. It's even worse when you got black folks leading the charge. I've never heard a bad word uttered about babe ruth, wayne gretzky or larry bird. Nothing but praise. They must be faultless.

 

[TheNig]

The way Ali treated Frazier was fukked up and he admitted it. But there is NOTHING...I repeat NOTHING that can take away or lessen the fact that Ali sacrificed his entire prime and stood up against the war and for black people. “No Vietcong ever called me ******”. Thats the most powerful statement ANY black athlete has ever said

But this is the point that I was trying to make yesterday. Yeah what Ali did was great in the grand scheme but he's not without fault. What he did to Joe Frazier was inexcusable. How he disassociated himself from Malcolm was messed up. There's no way around that. But what he did for the community was great. Depending on who you're speaking with, some might appreciate that aspect while others might hate him for the other stuff.

At the end of the day, he was an athlete that decided to use his voice for those who couldn't. But if he didnt do that, does that take away from his sports accomplishments?

 

[TheNig]

Yup. To me, that was his "republicans buy sneakers" moment. One mistake shouldn't define a man's entire legacy nor should it be brought up every single time the man is being celebrated or even talked about. It's unnecessary. His contributions to and for black people are too vast to use that as a point to bring him down.

But some folks have this incessant need to always highlight a man's faults especially - probably only - when that man is black. It's even worse when you got black folks leading the charge. I've never heard a bad word uttered about babe ruth, wayne gretzky or larry bird. Nothing but praise. They must be faultless.

And that's what I'm tryna get us to understand. nikkas will tear down MJ for that comment but we have a President that's it there yelling grab 'em by the p*ssy.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Yup. To me, that was his "republicans buy sneakers" moment. One mistake shouldn't define a man's entire legacy nor should it be brought up every single time the man is being celebrated or even talked about. It's unnecessary. His contributions to and for black people are too vast to use that as a point to bring him down.

But some folks have this incessant need to always highlight a man's faults especially - probably only - when that man is black. It's even worse when you got black folks leading the charge. I've never heard a bad word uttered about babe ruth, wayne gretzky or larry bird. Nothing but praise. They must be faultless.

There is nothing incessant about folks going at MJ for his slips. Far from it. Hes barely criticized. Itd folks like you who quiver at the mere mention of it thinking hes being beaten up by constant criticisms. He isnt . Its the mere mention of it that you overdress

 

[aceboon]

Why the F U C K does Jalen Rose look like he’s been bleaching

Weird lighting, he looked normal on Get Up yesterday morning

 

[C-Styles]

It's unfortunate that GREATS like Mike have so many YES MEN, that the moment one of their true friends is real with them, they shun them off as "Haters". Barkley has real genuine love for Mike and he should've know by then that Chuck keeps it 100 all the time. It's the same sh*t with Eminem and how Just Blaze told the story of how he felt he was walking on eggshells with Em in the studio. Mothaf*ckas get alienated if their "Hype bubble" is bursted!

And that's another catch 22 in your industry when you turn into a media member ala Joe Budden. You start losing friends for the same gift that got you them in the first place, for being too REAL

I can respect Royce for still stickin by Joe even when he doesn't agree with half the sh*t he says, Mike should patch sh*t up with Chuck because i can guarantee the people surrounding Mike don't want to risk their meal ticket by saying some real sh*t to him. Chuck is the friend everyone who's had big success needs!

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

It's unfortunate that GREATS like Mike have so many YES MEN, that the moment one of their true friends is real with them, they shun them off as "Haters". Barkley has real genuine love for Mike and he should've know by then that Chuck keeps it 100 all the time. It's the same sh*t with Eminem and how Just Blaze told the story of how he felt he was walking on eggshells with Em in the studio. Mothaf*ckas get alienated if their "Hype bubble" is bursted!

And that's another catch 22 in your industry when you turn into a media member ala Joe Budden. You start losing friends for the same gift that got you them in the first place, for being too REAL

I can respect Royce for still stickin by Joe even when he doesn't agree with half the sh*t he says, Mike should patch sh*t up with Chuck because i can guarantee the people surrounding Mike don't want to risk their meal ticket by saying some real sh*t to him. Chuck is the friend everyone who's had big success needs!

You don't know the situation. Rod Higgins is Mike's best friend. His true friend. So when you say he's surrounded by "yes men", you're not just taking a shot at mike, you're taking a shot at his best friend and belittling him - his knowledge, his work ethic and his manhood.

 

[SoSoSlick]

 

[Big Boss]

So while I love the doc for what it is - kinda a video autobiography - I’m gonna need an objective, third party doc to be made as well that covers life on and off the court. First wife, retirement and baseball, dad’s death, diving more into his larger than life popularity, interviews with Bugs Bunny and the Monstars

They will get sued as soon as they start producing