Official Michael Jordan 'The Last Dance' Doc Thread (NO SPOILERS)

[Trav]

a posthumous appearance from kobe...

 

[FAH1223]

 

[MVike28]

I’m seeing a lot of “those people” making excuses for the Celtics walking out on Detroit. But trashing the Pistons at the same time.

The Celtics didn’t exactly play clean either. And they used bush league tricks at the Boston Garden.

fukk the Celtics

that hand slap between Zeke and Mchale

man Isaiah was a dog and he’s a Chicago nikka they built different

 

[Fani Willis fan]

The coaching aspect with Tex Winter was very overlooked before this documentary. Bulls had everything on max sliders.

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

"they may not be the most talented team... But when you come to Detroit... You gonna get your ass kicked!..."

They were a really talented team. Isiah, Dumars, Aguirre, Vinnie Johnson, Rodman. Aguirre was a legit stud in Dallas and was coming off their bench.

They had more talent overall than the first 3 peat Bulls if you eliminate the Jordan factor.

 

[AMcV'88]

episode three/Rodman was so good but a special mention for that but with the highlight reel with the Prince Batman song in it. amazing.

 

[Blankthawtz]

They were a really talented team. Isiah, Dumars, Aguirre, Vinnie Johnson, Rodman. Aguirre was a legit stud in Dallas and was coming off their bench.

They had more talent overall than the first 3 peat Bulls if you eliminate the Jordan factor.

Not my quote... Thats from the doc....

 

[Rell84shots]

They were a really talented team. Isiah, Dumars, Aguirre, Vinnie Johnson, Rodman. Aguirre was a legit stud in Dallas and was coming off their bench.

They had more talent overall than the first 3 peat Bulls if you eliminate the Jordan factor.

I hate when people do this. You can't make a point by eliminating things.

 

[patscorpio]

isiah beat magic (kareem, worthy, cooper), mj (pippen) and bird (mcchale, parish, DJ), all of whom were in their primes. and he did it without a top 50 teammate.



what other nba player on planet earth managed that?

the twitter mob can say whatever the fukk it wants. it won't change history.

and thats why you get isiah throwing shade left and right to this day...bird and magic pretty much bowed down to mike as their successor and his legend

isiah - fukk michael jordan..and he does all this shyt with a smile on his face which is equally hilarious

he is right to feel that way ..mike and isiah will never mellow out towards each other

i for one thinks its great...aint no half steppin..keep the same energy

 

[fade]

Talk that shyt my piston goat

 

[Biscayne]

So fitting that Jordan began his journey to GOAT status by beating the GOAT franchise at the Forum. What better way to be crowned?

Right. There's not a better way to start your dynasty than beating a legend like Magic, in a town like L.A. He started his journey and coronation infront of all the hottest celebs and bright lights of tinsletown.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Bron being so ball dominant has it's disadvantages even though he should have the ball most of the time. Those disadvantages just turn everyone else into a spot up shooter unless they are a great iso player like Wade or Kyrie was. Hard to develop a Pip in those circumstances.

To @NYC Rebel 's point..... stuff that @MJ Truth @Rhakim and others have pointed out in the past

You're talking about guys that were already in the league and who had the fatal of flaw of not being able to shoot. Also in terms of Hughes, I think the roster construction by the Cavs did them no favors having non shooting Eric Snow out there with them. That really wasnt the ideal plan for creating any offensive rhythm (This is Mike Brown we're talking)

Post Hughes is when they went with the spot up shooting route because that was the best they could acquire.

Which is why I bring up JR.

The reality is the worse thing for those early Cavs teams is they werent BAD like those early Thunder/KD teams. Imagine if he gets Dwight in 04. Or more realistic somebody like Iggy.

However, here is what ruined ANY potential Pippen.

Confident at the February trade deadline that they would make the playoffs, the Cavaliers made two moves that now threaten the franchise's future.

The first was trading a 2007 first-round pick for Celtics guard Jiri Welsch, with the thought of providing James with a badly needed designated shooter.

NBA rules, a team cannot trade consecutive future first-round picks. And that left the Cavaliers in a bind.

In order to assure Boston of a 2007 first-rounder for Welsch, Cleveland had to take the 2005 lottery-protection of the first-round pick it dealt at last summer's expansion draft to Charlotte for forward Sasha Pavlovic, another supposed designated gunner.


So for 4.8 points per game from Pavlovic this season, Cleveland's upcoming lottery pick now belongs to the Bobcats.



In summing up his team's season, James said, "It always catches up with you when you are not doing things right."

For his part, Jiri Welsch was absolutely terrible, averaging 2.9 points on 23.5% shooting during his time with the Cavs.



As The Wine and Gold rush pointed out, the Celtics ended up trading the 2007 pick they got from the Cavs to the Suns for the 21st overall pick in the 2006 draft, which they used to take Rajon Rondo. (The Suns ended up using the 2007 pick on Rudy Fernandez.)




The draft is an inexact science — for every Scottie Pippen, there’s a Mike Dunleavy. For every Pau Gasol, there’s a Darko. For every Josh Smith, there’s a Ndudi Ebi. For every Rajon Rondo, there are three Acie Laws. For every Manu Ginobili, there are hundreds of Sergei Monias. The draft is the best way to add real talent to a team, but it’s also the riskiest. It’s hard to blame any team’s front office for not finding a Pippen-like home run pick because of how unpredictable the draft is; no matter who you are, there’s a ton of luck involved in getting the draft right. Failing to get lucky is one thing. Giving away two of the Cavaliers’ best chances to get lucky in exchange for 16 games of Jiri Welsch is quite another. Just unfathomable how disastrous this move was for the Cavaliers.

How it all went wrong: Jiri Welsch

Just crippling moves to develop talent.

So even if they didnt struggle like OKC to get the equivilant of Westbrook/Harden.

In 04 they take Luke Jackson over JR Smith, Josh Smith and Al Jefferson
You lose the 05 pick...which could have been Danny Granger
You lose the 07 pick which could have been moved for a PG or taken a Marc Gasol


If this Doc should teach people anything...Jerry Krause was a DAMN good GM.

 

[FAH1223]

and thats why you get isiah throwing shade left and right to this day...bird and magic pretty much bowed down to mike as their successor and his legend

isiah - fukk michael jordan..and he does all this shyt with a smile on his face which is equally hilarious

he is right to feel that way ..mike and isiah will never mellow out towards each other

i for one thinks its great...aint no half steppin..keep the same energy

 

[MVike28]

and thats why you get isiah throwing shade left and right to this day...bird and magic pretty much bowed down to mike as their successor and his legend

isiah - fukk michael jordan..and he does all this shyt with a smile on his face which is equally hilarious

he is right to feel that way ..mike and isiah will never mellow out towards each other

i for one thinks its great...aint no half steppin..keep the same energy

Exactly

Isaiah is a dog he gave and still gives no fukks

if Magic wanna bow down that’s his prerogative

if Bird wanna call him Jesus have at it

he ain’t obligated to do shyt

nikkas pick and choose who they admire for their competitiveness. its funny to see

 

[I AM WARHOL]

isiah beat magic (kareem, worthy, cooper), mj (pippen) and bird (mcchale, parish, DJ), all of whom were in their primes. and he did it without a top 50 teammate.



what other nba player on planet earth managed that?

the twitter mob can say whatever the fukk it wants. it won't change history.

And that's why I have him ranked top 2 in my alltime pg discussion. Only one without a glaring weakness too. Everything you want from a 1. The prototype imo