Official Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Collapse Thread...They're absolutely FU&KED!!!

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Deputy Crown Prince and Defense Minister Mohammed bin Salman – a.k.a. Little Salman, the Warrior Prince, the conductor of the illegal war on Yemen - went on national TV to talk about Vision 2030 as well as the so-called National Transformation Plan.


He's getting his weight up. He's trying to wrap shyt up and solidify his position before his pops kicks the bucket.

Dude is working overtime. :whew:Defense Minister...Economy...war in Yemen....Aramco....women driving ...basically all the big topics not to mention his ''visions'' and ideas placed everywhere in the media. Very ambitious.



Muhammad Bin Naif must be sitting there like :patrice:
 

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I wholeheartedly agree... The US needs to stop being cool with these muthafukkas... and hopefully when that oil money run dry the mutual allies talk shyt change up too...Money is the only thing the US respects... and if the saudi's really run outta oil, you think the US will rock with them like that??? what other resources do they have??? :heh:

Not if they flip the Saudi Aramco profits and invest that money in American and European multinational companies.

If they do that America and Europe ain't fukking with them.
 

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Estimates as soon as 50 years

True but that also changes with new technology. The came out with a study in the 50s or 60s that we would run out of oil by the 1990s or 2000s. But new technology allowed us to dig deeper.

Same with Moore's law (which talks about chip performance) the time keeps getting extended out because of technology constantly advancing.
 

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Funny how history repeats itself :francis:

And what is that area now.... Shangri La? :comeon: The region has been getting worse and worse ever since we set foot in it, largely in part due to our misguided alliance with KSA

These motherfukkers were living in caves before WE found their oil..... and they have been using that oil against us ever since :snoop:

Thing is Saudi Aramco was originally owned by the Brits I think. They sold it to the Saudi government thinking that the oil would run out in a few decades. Little did they know that there was even more oil in the country and that the Saudis would be able to pay off the debt for the company quickly and start making huge profits.
 

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Another thing they are doing multiple projects in Saudi to diversify their economy.

They are building a huge city that will be only for manufacturing. The entire city will be dedicated to doing manufacturing that is shipped from the US and Europe for cheaper labour rates.

The hope is that the city will be ready in 10 years.
 

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He's getting his weight up. He's trying to wrap shyt up and solidify his position before his pops kicks the bucket.

Dude is working overtime. :whew:Defense Minister...Economy...war in Yemen....Aramco....women driving ...basically all the big topics not to mention his ''visions'' and ideas placed everywhere in the media. Very ambitious.



Muhammad Bin Naif must be sitting there like :patrice:
:heh: they gonna pop that lil nikka :pachaha:
 

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Another thing they are doing multiple projects in Saudi to diversify their economy.

They are building a huge city that will be only for manufacturing. The entire city will be dedicated to doing manufacturing that is shipped from the US and Europe for cheaper labour rates.

The hope is that the city will be ready in 10 years.
:francis:

They already blew BILLIONS on a city no one uses that was supposed to be for finance :heh:

King Abdullah Financial District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Thing is Saudi Aramco was originally owned by the Brits I think. They sold it to the Saudi government thinking that the oil would run out in a few decades. Little did they know that there was even more oil in the country and that the Saudis would be able to pay off the debt for the company quickly and start making huge profits.
Eh...I heard it was more Arab nationalism that forced the brits out and their indirect support for Israel hurt the relationship and caused them to start leveraging control.
 

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Another thing they are doing multiple projects in Saudi to diversify their economy.

They are building a huge city that will be only for manufacturing. The entire city will be dedicated to doing manufacturing that is shipped from the US and Europe for cheaper labour rates.

The hope is that the city will be ready in 10 years.

Without going into details, I have worked with Saudi industry sourcing locally manufactured equipment for the oil industry. Saudi's suppliers ARE NOT cheap compared to India and China. Their labor rates are higher, they usually only have 1 or 2 companies making a given commodity which allows them to mark up prices a lot, and much of the engineering and management are people from Europe or the Subcontinent. Unless they drastically slash labor rates (creating social unrest), import more cheap labor from the Subcontinent (creating social unrest), or make their companies globally productive and competitive (best solution but not as easy as it sounds) it will be hard. The only thing that might save them is to get a deal like Brazil has. Brazil has high cost, low productivity manufacturing as well but has the biggest manufacturing base in South America and trades duty free with half of South America via Mercosur. But Brazil also has a huge internal market, but Saudi kind of does too but it's a young market. If the Saudis can be the manufacturing base for the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council, organization of gulf states), maybe that can help sustain it through its infancy, however, they have to compete with the Lebanese, Turks, and Egyptians which have a head start manufacturing wise. Iran also has a decent industrial base that could big up after sanctions which is another competitive threat.
 

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Without going into details, I have worked with Saudi industry sourcing locally manufactured equipment for the oil industry. Saudi's suppliers ARE NOT cheap compared to India and China. Their labor rates are higher, they usually only have 1 or 2 companies making a given commodity which allows them to mark up prices a lot, and much of the engineering and management are people from Europe or the Subcontinent. Unless they drastically slash labor rates (creating social unrest), import more cheap labor from the Subcontinent (creating social unrest), or make their companies globally productive and competitive (best solution but not as easy as it sounds) it will be hard. The only thing that might save them is to get a deal like Brazil has. Brazil has high cost, low productivity manufacturing as well but has the biggest manufacturing base in South America and trades duty free with half of South America via Mercosur. But Brazil also has a huge internal market, but Saudi kind of does too but it's a young market. If the Saudis can be the manufacturing base for the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council, organization of gulf states), maybe that can help sustain it through its infancy, however, they have to compete with the Lebanese, Turks, and Egyptians which have a head start manufacturing wise. Iran also has a decent industrial base that could big up after sanctions which is another competitive threat.

I agree I work internationally in telecom and I go to places like South America, Mexico, Eastern Europe, India and China which have considerably cheaper labour rates than the Saudi Arabia. We also did manufacturing with Brazil but their export rates are extremely high compared to places like China, India and Mexico.

I am just telling you what the country of Saudi Arabia have invested in and that is building that city to manufacture products. Who knows how that will turn out because we are talking something that is 10 years down the road (and folks are estimating the city will take 20 years to build).

Countries are known to waste money on foolish endeavors..... hell I been to some of those empty cities in China.....trust I know.
 
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Without going into details, I have worked with Saudi industry sourcing locally manufactured equipment for the oil industry. Saudi's suppliers ARE NOT cheap compared to India and China. Their labor rates are higher, they usually only have 1 or 2 companies making a given commodity which allows them to mark up prices a lot, and much of the engineering and management are people from Europe or the Subcontinent. Unless they drastically slash labor rates (creating social unrest), import more cheap labor from the Subcontinent (creating social unrest), or make their companies globally productive and competitive (best solution but not as easy as it sounds) it will be hard. The only thing that might save them is to get a deal like Brazil has. Brazil has high cost, low productivity manufacturing as well but has the biggest manufacturing base in South America and trades duty free with half of South America via Mercosur. But Brazil also has a huge internal market, but Saudi kind of does too but it's a young market. If the Saudis can be the manufacturing base for the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council, organization of gulf states), maybe that can help sustain it through its infancy, however, they have to compete with the Lebanese, Turks, and Egyptians which have a head start manufacturing wise. Iran also has a decent industrial base that could big up after sanctions which is another competitive threat.
90% of labor in the private sector is imported :dead:

70% of the country works for the government :dead:
 

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Saudi Arabia 'not ready' to let women drive because of culture, not religion - prince
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Saudi Arabia isn't ready to allow women to drive cars, a powerful prince has announced, dismissing suggestions that the ban would soon be lifted.


“So far the society is not persuaded [by women driving] – and it has negative influence – but we stress that it is up to the Saudi society,” said Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who has been granted unprecedented powers under the rule of his father.

The prince added that it is not “a religious issue as much as it is an issue that relates to the community itself that either accepts it or refuses it,” Gulf News reported.

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Other restrictions faced by women in the ultra-conservative country include being forced to wear loose-fitting gowns and being barred from going anywhere without a chaperone. They cannot open bank accounts, work certain jobs, attend university, undergo medical procedures, or travel outside the country without permission of a male guardian – usually their husband or a relative.

Some of the country's most prominent clerics have cautioned against females driving, issuing religious decrees against it. Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh recently said that allowing women to drive was a “dangerous matter that should not be permitted.” In 2013, Sheikh Saleh al-Lohaidan said that females risked damaging their ovaries and producing children with clinical problems if they drove.

Campaigns lashing out at the ban were launched following the 2011 Arab Spring, which included women filming themselves driving. However, authorities quickly squashed the movement. The protest was reignited in 2013, only to be quelled by the government once again.

Despite his unwillingness to lift the ban on driving, the deputy crown prince said earlier this month that “we believe women have rights in Islam that they've yet to obtain." He also stated that more women in the workforce could help boost the country's productivity.
 
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