nikka had 10 minutes.Congrats on recreating out of context comic panels with out of context movie stills. Performance is still trash and cringeworthy
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Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Care to elaborate?
T’Challa’s Heir
Superstar
The Joker is a genius and come up with all kinds of schemes and plans. He also has to have some level of chemistry mastery to be able to produce the joker gas.
Phoenix’s joker is a mentally challenged 40 year old, who’s uprising is basically dumb luck. Phoenix’s joker gets washed by Batman in 2 minutes.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
interesting but Bruce is a kid. Joker could still be a dormant genius and they can write in a decent explanation on how he developed his chemistry skills
T’Challa’s Heir
Superstar
That’s still gonna be a 60 year old joker dealing with a 25-30 year old Bruce. And on top of being a genius, joker is also charismatic and has swag. Arthur Fleck is the exact opposite of those things.
KravenMorehead™
Barrel Brothers.®
But he would have to be the opposite in order to become joker in the first place. No nikka that's out the gate with charisma and swag would just start killing people indiscriminately cause he had one bad day. Joker (in some of his multiple origin stories) got his swag/charisma from becoming the joker. So it makes sense.
Now I would say that this joker is only great as an elseworlds story and shouldn't be incorporated in a default DC cinematic continuity, but WB made that fukk up before when they took Man of Steel Superman and used him to jumpstart a whole universe post- Avengers movie success. So I wouldn't put that kinda stupidity past them...
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Great points. Does it state anywhere that he’s in his 40s though? All of those traits can be gained. Just because he was a swaggerless loser doesn’t mean he cannot become a charismatic insane villain. He seemed to become unshackled at the end of the movie. There would need to be a sequel to the Joker to explain the character development before they introduce him into a Batman movie if they were to go that route.
Right. I mean Joaquin’s Joker isn’t even a fukkin villain really. The whole movie was commentary on mental health and wealth inequality. Not a comic book movie by any stretch. The performance was Oscar-worthy for sure. Just not a comic accurate one...and that’s fine.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Wrong. Some of what you said is true but most everything in this is comic accurate and inspired by arcs in the comics.
T’Challa’s Heir
Superstar
can you point me to some of the arcs that inspired the joker movie?
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
I'd take leto over Phoenix any day
nikka had 10 minutes.
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
At least Cyborg will get his moment 
Ayer really trying to follow the Snyder model
Look like Pennywise
Ayer really trying to follow the Snyder model
Look like Pennywise
Saysumthinfunnymike
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No, I will not because this was discussed at length in the Joker movie by myself and also @MartyMcFly Go read that thread if you want to know
Saysumthinfunnymike
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At least Cyborg will get his moment
Ayer really trying to follow the Snyder model
Look like Pennywise
I welcome more Director's cuts of films.. They aren't always "better" than what the studio put out but sometimes they are and it's interesting to see the differences.
A perfect example is Kingdom of Heaven. The theatrical version is ass.. the director's cut is amazing. There is a stark difference, it's ridiculous...
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Also 
to Snyder for going all out for Fisher and the Cyborg character. You have to admit that the entire cast loves them some Snyder. They couldn't care less about the other guy
to Snyder for going all out for Fisher and the Cyborg character. You have to admit that the entire cast loves them some Snyder. They couldn't care less about the other guy