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Finally got around to watching it. Phoenix did a damn good job. I know he’s a great actor, so his portrayal didn’t amaze me.

The overall script was the weakest part, but passable. This film was all about the character and his development.

Maybe I’ll enjoy it more on a second viewing.
 

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Finally got around to watching it. Phoenix did a damn good job. I know he’s a great actor, so his portrayal didn’t amaze me.

The overall script was the weakest part, but passable. This film was all about the character and his development.

Maybe I’ll enjoy it more on a second viewing.


What did the script lack?
 

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Zazzie's character is used to put more emphasis on Jokers turn and his delusion.

More scenes with the mother could‘ve been used for that.

I mean, even the craziness with the mother wasn’t that good Of a build up. We all knew she wasn’t right, but it came off like any other old person. She was a full gone crazy early on. Could’ve had a better build up to show it more. (All they did was make it seem like Joker was Thomas’ son. That’s all I remember.)
 

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David Fincher: ‘Joker’ Was A “Betrayal Of The Mentally Ill” – Deadline

David Fincher has criticized Todd Phillips’ Oscar-winning superhero spin-off flic Joker for its portrayal of mental illness.

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, the Mank and Fight Club filmmaker said the movie was “a betrayal of the mentally ill” and also took a wider swipe at the Hollywood studios for only green-lighting films that they think will “make them a billion dollars”.

“Nobody would have thought they had a shot at a giant hit with Joker had The Dark Knight not been as massive as it was. I don’t think anyone would have looked at that material and thought, ‘Yeah, let’s take [Taxi Driver’s] Travis Bickle and [The King of Comedy’s] Rupert Pupkin and conflate them, then trap him in a betrayal of the mentally ill, and trot it out for a billion dollars,” he said.

Last week, Fincher made public that he has four years left on an exclusive deal with Netflix in an interview with French mag Premiere. In the Telegraph interview, the director went into a bit more detail about why he’d signed that pact.

“The reality of our current situation is that the five families don’t want to make anything that can’t make them a billion dollars,” he said. “None of them want to be in the medium-priced challenging content business. And that cleaves off exactly the kind of movies I make. What the streamers are doing is providing a platform for the kind of cinema that actually reflects our culture and wrestles with big ideas: where things are, what people are anxious and unsure about. Those are the kinds of movies that would have been dead on arrival five years ago.”
 
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