Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[old pig]

Another great moment was when he laughs listening to Thomas Wayne shytting on "cowards behind masks" when we in the audience know his son is going to become a masked vigilante.

I was so caught up in the moment I didn’t peep the irony even tho it was right there...good catch

 

[Deltron]

Yeah they knew the movie wasnt marketable on it's own so they put jokers name on it to create a buzz.

and WB still didn't have faith in it

they stripped away all the appeal from the comics, games and movies, if you like your joker as a whiney little bytch that's on you.

People saying Ledger was more Joker are correct. Simply because Ledger played the Joker the entire movie. Phoenix played Arthur Fleck. So of course Ledger was "more" Joker.

This is an origin story. Do you not know how those work?

 

[hex]

Yeah they knew the movie wasnt marketable on it's own so they put jokers name on it to create a buzz.

they stripped away all the appeal from the comics, games and movies, if you like your joker as a whiney little bytch that's on you.

People saying Ledger was more Joker are correct. Simply because Ledger played the Joker the entire movie. Phoenix played Arthur Fleck. So of course Ledger was "more" Joker.

Man at this point you're talking just to talk.

I asked why doesn't "The Killing Joke" count....no response.

Arthur Fleck was a whiny bytch in "The Killing Joke"....if you want to sit there and tell me it don't count because it's not canon, none of this shyt is canon.

So what's your beef....talking about "they stripped away the appeal from the comics, games, and movies" when you've never even seen Arthur Fleck before this movie.

So what are you comparing this to?
And at "Ledger was more Joker"....you know damn well when people say that they aren't talking about quantity. They're talking about he's more aligned with their limited knowledge of the character.

Lastly at the first sentence in your post. This ain't 1995 or some shyt. You can't "fool" the public with marketing like that. They could've called it whatever the fukk they wanted, Arthur, Joker, The Killing Joke, whatever....word was out this was an Arthur Fleck movie immediately. From the first Twitter reactions. From the posts on this board. From the reviews. So the idea that WB somehow "fooled" the general public with a title....to the tune of $1 billion....is straight lunacy.

If cats were under the impression this was a 100% Joker movie and felt "fooled" word of mouth would've killed this movie inside of 1-2 weeks. But it obviously didn't.

Fred.

 

[OmegaK2099]

Man at this point you're talking just to talk.

I asked why doesn't "The Killing Joke" count....no response.

Arthur Fleck was a whiny bytch in "The Killing Joke"....if you want to sit there and tell me it don't count because it's not canon, none of this shyt is canon.

So what's your beef....talking about "they stripped away the appeal from the comics, games, and movies" when you've never even seen Arthur Fleck before this movie.

So what are you comparing this to?
And at "Ledger was more Joker"....you know damn well when people say that they aren't talking about quantity. They're talking about he's more aligned with their limited knowledge of the character.

Lastly at the first sentence in your post. This ain't 1995 or some shyt. You can't "fool" the public with marketing like that. They could've called it whatever the fukk they wanted, Arthur, Joker, The Killing Joke, whatever....word was out this was an Arthur Fleck movie immediately. From the first Twitter reactions. From the posts on this board. From the reviews. So the idea that WB somehow "fooled" the general public with a title....to the tune of $1 billion....is straight lunacy.

If cats were under the impression this was a 100% Joker movie and felt "fooled" word of mouth would've killed this movie inside of 1-2 weeks. But it obviously didn't.

Fred.

The first video released was of Phoenix in full joker make up, people thought that's what they were getting. They didnt make up the full synopsis in their heads that this was going to be an arthur fleck only movie.



Limited knowledge of the character? Anyone can see the heath ledger joker was more in tune with the comics than this shyt.

 

[Deltron]

The first video released was of Phoenix in full joker make up, people thought that's what they were getting.

and we did get that, in the last half of the movie, when he fully transforms into the Joker, suit and all.

 

[jwinfield]

and we did get that, in the last half of the movie, when he fully transforms into the Joker, suit and all.

And even in that little clip, he’s not in makeup for most of it, we begin to see little flashes before he fully becomes the Joker.

 

[OmegaK2099]

and we did get that, in the last half of the movie, when he fully transforms into the Joker, suit and all.

Not long enough, such a weak ass origin story

 

[Deltron]

Not long enough, such a weak ass origin story

...origin stories are usually framed this way. They show you up to the point where they become who they are. Even though it's the third in the trilogy, Revenge of the Sith is similar, we don't see Vader as vader until literally the last 5-10 mins. But we see that build up.

 

[OmegaK2099]

...origin stories are usually framed this way. They show you up to the point where they become who they are. Even though it's the third in the trilogy, Revenge of the Sith is similar, we don't see Vader as vader until literally the last 5-10 mins. But we see that build up.

Except we could have done without ALL that time spent with Arthur Fleck

 

[Deltron]

Except we could have done without ALL that time spent with Arthur Fleck

but it's his origin story from Fleck to Joker. We see his why and his final transformation, which sets up the Joker for future films.


You basically didn't want a Joker origin story, but a just a Joker movie? Is that your issue?

 

[jwinfield]

...origin stories are usually framed this way. They show you up to the point where they become who they are. Even though it's the third in the trilogy, Revenge of the Sith is similar, we don't see Vader as vader until literally the last 5-10 mins. But we see that build up.

Apparently, origin stories are supposed to spend 99% of the movie with the character already transformed into the person they're giving the origin for.

 

[Norrin Radd]

 

[Still FloW]

I'm not going to debate this dumb shyt movie again here. I don't care enough about it, honestly. But the worries about it being apologetic for the "incel" or "disillusioned loner" or excusing of their behavior was justified even if it didn't result in any violence. That reading is 100% there in the text, whether the uneven direction intended it to or not.

maaan shut the fukk up... bytch ass hoes still crying about the GOAT film ever.. p*ssy ass nikka mad marfooL aint nominated for shyt.. theme park ass franchise..

fuccin bum

 

[Still FloW]

The first video released was of Phoenix in full joker make up, people thought that's what they were getting. They didnt make up the full synopsis in their heads that this was going to be an arthur fleck only movie.



Limited knowledge of the character? Anyone can see the heath ledger joker was more in tune with the comics than this shyt.

dawg ypu still crying ??? this movie been out. done for, billi done, awards done and your bytch ass here crying about the film ??

what kind of sucka are you ?? like did your mom breastfeed you till you were 30 ?? sound like a fakkit.. whoremotional rants about your beloved idea of who you wanted Joker to be.

JOKER HAS NO ORIGIN, nothing.. he can be written anyway as long as he is crazy... you are just a bytch.. plain and simple

 

[OmegaK2099]

dawg ypu still crying ??? this movie been out. done for, billi done, awards done and your bytch ass here crying about the film ??

what kind of sucka are you ?? like did your mom breastfeed you till you were 30 ?? sound like a fakkit.. whoremotional rants about your beloved idea of who you wanted Joker to be.

JOKER HAS NO ORIGIN, nothing.. he can be written anyway as long as he is crazy... you are just a bytch.. plain and simple

Go outside you fukking dork