Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[FlyRy]

I'm still astounded they cofinanced a 55 mil movie on one of the most iconic villains and did not drop any merchandise

 

[Deltron]

I'm still astounded they cofinanced a 55 mil movie on one of the most iconic villains and did not drop any merchandise

 

[Sad Bunny]

Had mixed feelings when I watched it in theater. Felt the movie dragged a bit and was redundant in showing us Arthur in the same locations getting treated like crap.
Watched it at home last weekend and enjoyed it more than the first time. It’s not a perfect movie but as a study of mental illness it does a pretty good job. I like that they answered just enough questions to keep things coherent but left enough questions unanswered to get the viewer thinking.

I pretty much agree I watched it again on Sunday and it didn't seem long and dragged out.....

It was just that good.

That little Irish accent Joker put at at the end with the midget

 

[(ALi)]

Movie was damn near terrible, furthest thing from what I imagined the Joker to be. Should have just called it Arthur.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I think the left really missed the boat on this and I'm someone who is hard left. They will often go into attack mode and cancel mode and with this film they simply didn't understand the concept.

They thought this was about the alt right, like propaganda but it couldn't be further from that. In fact, Joker has a dialogue about mental disability and the lack of funding for mental disability and gun control and a host of other topics that the alt right are uncomfortable talking about.

There is a message in here about being nice to people but that's not a message that is either left or right. The truth of the matter is with a lot of these crazy people out here, they do get pushed over the edge. They are already fukked up and their surroundings will add to it.

If there was proper funding for psychiatry and medications and if it wasn't so easy to acquire a handgun much of this might have been avoided.

However, the character is also left up to interpretation because it's a chicken or egg thing. Is Joker this way and it's drawn out of him or is he biding his time to act out his fantasies, that is left open for you to decide.

Phoenix himself said when he read the script there were parts where he feels maybe Arthur is sympathetic but then there are parts where he's absolutely not sympathetic at all... he's scary and unhinged.

 

[jwinfield]

Movie was damn near terrible, furthest thing from what I imagined the Joker to be.

How should the Joker be before he became full fledged Joker?

 

[Still FloW]

disney regime stas and marfooL dikk eaters gonna off themselves alongside all those critics who tried to burn this film when GOAT-Ker wins all the awards

we live in a society brehhhsss

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

I think it's going to get best picture.

Brace yourselves...

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

fukk Spidey and venom!

 

[KillbertArenas]

In at the part where he killed the dude in front of the midget...

Is this a musical?

This shyt is wack

 

[BeachBum Unreal]

 

[Crude]

I wasnt feeling it to many redundant elements.

I'm not Scorsese fan either though. Probably the darkest movie I've seen in a long time. The situation with his mom seemed to drag out as well.

I can see why people like it, but this shyt wasnt anywhere near a cinematic masterpiece to me.

 

[Jblaze204]

I disliked the movie. My first impression was that this movie lacked any real story and that its but after sleeping on it I'll be objective and say this is a character study film and nothing else but the general audience consensus is this movie is a classic and I dont get it but hey guess I'm an outsider.

Great performance by Phoenix but the more I see him speak and move out and about I respect the performance less. Dude definitely has some of that joker weirdness/awkwardness inside him.

4.5 out of 10

 

[Geek Nasty]

Solid 9/10 stars from me. Excellent movie. I don't know where the whole "for the incels" thing comes from. This movie is in the same vein as Fight Club. The theme is pretty clearly stated. Rich vs. the poor. The people who NEED to be scared are rich white cacs

This is one of the greatest origin stories I've seen put on film. I didn't even see it coming until they mentioned Thomas Wayne on TV. I was expecting a much more abstract Joker.

One thing I'm still going back and forth on, maybe I'm trying to read too much into it but:

Spoiler

Was Thomas Wayne really Joker's father? Was his mother set up by Thomas to hide the fact that he had an illegitimate child? I was 50/50 the whole way then I saw the picture he found of his mother with the "I love your smile" note from Thomas (and the fact that she was beautiful when she was young), that made me feel like Thomas really was his father and had her committed to hide the fact. Plus, makes no sense that a single mom would adopt a kid.

Either way, the fact that it was ambiguous was an excellent setup for his origin story.

 

[Piffiztheanswer]

It was aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Writing could of been better