Official #JillNotHill Jill Stein 2016 General Election "HEADQUARTERS"!

[dennis roadman]

How many times do I have to say the same thing? It gets tiring it really does. Why do you all have to derail a thread?

there's nothing to derail. nobody is talking about jill stein, unfortunately.

 

[SirReginald]

there's nothing to derail. nobody is talking about jill stein, unfortunately.

I brought in a lot of people and tagged them in who would support Stein. Also, we could do that if yall stop derailing.

 

[The_Sheff]

he just posts what he thinks will get the most replies. and he doesn't really have much to actually say, so he fills up posts with transitions, redundancies, and quasi-related exclamations. look at his reply to you, what is he really saying?

Thats the thing, when i get notifications that he quoted me i just ignore them.

At first i thought he was trolling but then i had the misfortune of being pointed into the direction of one of his youtube videos and he was on there saying similar shyt. Judging from the state of his room and varying other aspects of the video i really do think buddy is a few stripes short of a zebra.

 

[SirReginald]

Thats the thing, when i get notifications that he quoted me i just ignore them.

Just stop derailing. You came in here derailing.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Thats the thing, when i get notifications that he quoted me i just ignore them.

At first i thought he was trolling but then i had the misfortune of being pointed into the direction of one of his youtube videos and he was on there saying similar shyt. Judging from the state of his room and varying other aspects of the video i really do think buddy is a few stripes short of a zebra.

Lmao

 

[dennis roadman]

Thats the thing, when i get notifications that he quoted me i just ignore them.

At first i thought he was trolling but then i had the misfortune of being pointed into the direction of one of his youtube videos and he was on there saying similar shyt. Judging from the state of his room and varying other aspects of the video i really do think buddy is a few stripes short of a zebra.

Damn, I don't wanna see those vids I usually reply when I'm bored or can't sleep, he's guaranteed to reply within the hour. Prolly just a young kid with no job or part time job who's not that bright. Which is cool, but when he becomes this political mastermind it's just

Even now in this thread he has this idea that my posts are somehow blocking others from making their own. The people he tagged have ignored this thread

 

[SirReginald]

Can she capitalize off of it is the million dollar question

Jill Stein sees opportunity in wake of Sanders movement
POSTED BY JILL2016 TEAM ON MAY 23, 2016
Vice, May 23, 2016

How the Green Party Is Cashing In on the Bernie Sanders Revolution

by John Surico

The merch line at the Left Forum -- an annual lecture series for the progressive- and radical-minded, held this weekend at New York City’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice -- was stocked for the revolution. Scattered copies of proto-liberal books, like Michelle Alexander’s New Jim Crow, and Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine littered the table, next to rows of Che Guevara gear and pro-Palestine paraphernalia. Alongside the expected swag, stacks of shirts were emblazoned with the newest symbol of the American far left: the bushy eyebrows and mad-scientist mop of Bernie Sanders.

“The Left Forum is usually about one thing every year,” said Scott Caplan, a 59-year-old activist who serves as an officer for an array of Democratic clubs in New York. “For the past few, it’s been Occupy Wall Street. But this year, it’s Bernie.”

“Not necessarily all pro-Bernie,” he added. “Just what to do about him.”

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Whether attendees of the Left Forum counted themselves as Bernie supporters or not, it was clear that the Democratic-socialist-turned-Democratic-presidential-candidate had awoken something here. For a community perpetually disenchanted by the political “Establishment” -- a group for which Hillary Clinton is seen as the poster girl -- Sanders’s surprisingly successful presidential run has become a sort of lightning rod for its hopes and aspirations. So, as his insurgent campaign catapults toward its uncertain end, the question of “What happens now?” hung heavily over the radical-left gathering.

At a panel titled “Is Sanders the Answer to Left and Black Power?” Sunday night, activists Chris Hedges and Glen Ford, as well as Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein, tried to answer that question. Both Sanders and Stein pins flashed in the audience, while the panelists pondered whether the energy of the Vermont senator’s supporters -- and specifically, the 25 percent or so who still claim they will not back Clinton in November -- could be transferred to a third-party bid.

When Stein took the podium on Sunday, chants of “Jill, not Hill!” erupted in the lecture room. She laughed, and then quickly added, “Yeah, you’re not kidding.”

“People say to me sometimes, ‘So you’re OK with getting Trump elected?’” she continued. “And I say, ‘I will be horrified if Donald Trump gets elected, and I will be horrified if Hillary Clinton gets elected.’ And I’m most horrified by a political system that gives us two lethal choices and says, ‘Pick between them, and that’s it.’”

Stein, a physician from Massachusetts, isn’t new to presidential politics -- she ran as the Green Party nominee in 2012, winning 0.3 percent of the national vote. But in 2016, matched up against the two most unpopular frontrunners in modern campaign history, Stein and her party seem to be getting a second look.

Stein’s campaign lives off of Clinton and Trump’s unpopularity -- her slogan is “Time to reject the ‘lesser evil’ for the greater good.” And even if activists at the Left Forum, including Stein’s fellow panelists, criticize Sanders for being not socialist enough, the groundswell of support for his campaign seems to present a strong argument for a third party in American politics.

“We are right now in the polls where Bernie Sanders was about six months ago,” she said Sunday. “So don’t for a minute accept the propaganda that we are powerless, or irrelevant in this process or discussion.”

Yet, aside from calling the Democratic primaries “sabotage” and stressing the importance of “building movements” rather than parties, Stein and her fellow panelists were pretty vague about how exactly they would tap into the energy of the Sanders revolution. The Green Party standard-bearer stopped short of criticizing Sanders directly, and instead often felt like a sort of Bernie Lite, promising a “people’s’ bailout” and calling for a revolution. But the call to arms lacked the familiar cranky urgency that has sent young liberals flocking to the polls this year -- namely because, despite their political similarities, Stein just isn’t Bernie.

According to Juan Pablo and Rodney Petit, two Sanders-turned-Stein supporters I met outside the panel, the two candidates’ platforms “are ninety percent similar.” Stein’s “Power to the People,” the brothers noted, promises progressive reforms, like a $15 minimum wage, a green-energy renaissance, single-payer healthcare, and an end to Wall Street’s influence in Washington. After Sanders, the Pet*ts said, Stein was the next best thing.

“They share the same sense of getting big money out of politics,” Rodney explained. “And that’s what his supporters want.”

It’s not just the ideological overlap that makes Stein’s third-party bid appealing: The Pet*ts shared a long list of grievances that the Sanders tent has with the Democratic Establishment, including allegations of “voter suppression” in the New York primary; the superdelegate bias toward Clinton; and the recent tumult at the Nevada party convention. Echoing Stein’s earlier comments, the Petit brothers argued that the fear of Trump was being used by Democrats to disincentivize voters from choosing an alternative to Clinton.

“It’s a politics of fear,” Juan Pablo told me. “We’re told to vote for one instead of other, but what if we don’t want to vote for either? Who do we vote for then?”

“We’re being offered a lose-lose,” he added.

Still, the threat of a Trump presidency was a frequent point of contention during the Left Forum panel Sunday. Two people separately asked the speakers if they were underestimating the danger the presumptive Republican nominee posed to American democracy. The terms “fascist” and “dictator” were thrown around, as a third-party run was weighed against the prospect of a candidate as vitriolic as Trump winning the general election as a result. Was is worth it, attendees asked, to make a risky political gamble on a third-party in an election where the stakes are so high?

In the end, convincing voters to make that bet will be Stein’s biggest challenge going forward. At the moment, her campaign seems to be hedging on the hope: that frustrated Bernie voters will not simply stay home in November, or fall in line behind Clinton, but continue their dogged fight for “the revolution,” with Stein as its natural heir.

Caplan told me he voted for Stein in 2012 and is an avid Bernie fan in 2016. Wearing campaign pins for both candidates, he said that his loyalty to Sanders could shift once the Democratic nomination process is over -- he’s just waiting for the cards to fall.

“If Trump makes New York contestable, I couldn’t see myself voting for a third party,” Caplan said. “I’d have to try to stop him.”

Jill Stein sees opportunity in wake of Sanders movement

 

[Jello Biafra]

From Jill's website:

@JudgeJoeGorilla you're from VA, you can't even vote for her. Better start collecting signatures breh.

Ballot Access

Damn, Jill is on the ballot in even less states this cycle than she was in 2012.
And In PA she has till August 1st to get the necessary amount of signatures from PA residents to get her on the ballot. I am thinking she will probably need like around 50,000 signatures and considering she only got 20,000 votes in PA in 2012 I am not holding out much hope for her.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I brought in a lot of people and tagged them in who would support Stein. Also, we could do that if yall stop derailing.

I actually voted for Jill Stein in 2012 and I don't think I got tagged. What's up with that?

 

[SirReginald]

I actually voted for Jill Stein in 2012 and I don't think I got tagged. What's up with that?

I'm sorry I didn't tag you. I thought you would be supporting Clinton in November which I have no issue with. Anyway, so you think she can get pissed off voters?

 

[Jello Biafra]

Can she capitalize off of it is the million dollar question

I think Jill's biggest problem when it comes to snagging disgruntled Bernie supporters is that the more hardline folks are just Bernie supporters. They aren't in it for any other reason than they have latched onto Bernie and created this creepy cult of peronality around him and in their eyes it is Bernie or no one. Those are the folks that will either write in Bernie's name or just not vote.
The less deranged Bernie supporters who refuse to throe the baby out with the bath water will fall in line with the Dems and whine on every site they can post a message about how they "held their nose and voted for Clinton" but they will be voting for Hillary because progressive legislative change (as incremental as that change may be) has a better shot of getting pushed through with her than with Donald Trump.
And then there are the Ron Paul acolytes who had been looking for a rumpled old white man to be their political messiah since Ron's last go round and who will probably just vote for Donald Trump because they are bizarre and politically confused.
So Jill has a very narrow margin of lefty Bernie supporters who are tuned in enough to even know who Jill is that will be interested in voting for her just to make a point.

 

[88m3]

Bozo Stein

 

[Jello Biafra]

I'm sorry I didn't tag you. I thought you would be supporting Clinton in November which I have no issue with. Anyway, so you think she can get pissed off voters?

I'm voting for Clinton this time because I am not ready to become the joke of the world by having Donald Trump as my president.
I posted my ideas on Jill's chances with disgruntled Bernie voters...I don't think they are that good for her though.

 

[88m3]

I think Jill's biggest problem when it comes to snagging disgruntled Bernie supporters is that the more hardline folks are just Bernie supporters. They aren't in it for any other reason than they have latched onto Bernie and created this creepy cult of peronality around him and in their eyes it is Bernie or no one. Those are the folks that will either write in Bernie's name or just not vote.
The less deranged Bernie supporters who refuse to throe the baby out with the bath water will fall in line with the Dems and whine on every site they can post a message about how they "held their nose and voted for Clinton" but they will be voting for Hillary because progressive legislative change (as incremental as that change may be) has a better shot of getting pushed through with her than with Donald Trump.
And then there are the Ron Paul acolytes who had been looking for a rumpled old white man to be their political messiah since Ron's last go round and who will probably just vote for Donald Trump because they are bizarre and politically confused.
So Jill has a very narrow margin of lefty Bernie supporters who are tuned in enough to even know who Jill is that will be interested in voting for her just to make a point.

Excellent post.

 

[SirReginald]

I'm voting for Clinton this time because I am not ready to become the joke of the world by having Donald Trump as my president.
I posted my ideas on Jill's chances with disgruntled Bernie voters...I don't think they are that good for her though.

I can respect that. Atleast you were honest and not trolling/insulting.