Official Homeland Season 4, In Mira we don't trust Thread

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oh dear... you guys really arent happy with this!

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/12/22/showtime-homeland-finale/

Homeland concluded its critically acclaimed—and narratively refreshed —ourth season Sunday night with an episode that took an uncharacteristically quiet approach. Last night’s hour focused on Carrie (Claire Danes), Saul (Mandy Patinkin), and Peter’s (Rupert Friend) reentry into Washington D.C. after a traumatic tour in Pakistan that resulted in the loss of a regular character (Fara Sherazi). Peter attempted to develop a romantic connection with Carrie, while Dar Adal (F. Murray Abraham) revealed the CIA’s Faustian bargain with a terrorist leader. Below, Showtime president David Nevins shares some of his thoughts on the unconventional closing episode.

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EW: Reaction to the Homeland finale seems split. Some feel disappointed the episode was “slow,” while others found the change of pace a refreshing and unusual approach.
David Nevins: We went out of season three with this massive ending, with the death of Brody. And I think a show with this amount of political and narrative complexity can do a last episode that has a change of pace. I thought they needed to do an episode back in Washington, and needed to deal with Carrie’s family situation and her issues with motherhood. And there needed to be a political conclusion, too, not just an action conclusion. The season had some great action, but at its core it was really a political thriller about America’s place in the world, and how difficult that position is in the 21st century. This season is very much about how America deals with the Muslim world, and what it means that Dar Adal was sitting in the back seat as Haqqani was taking his victory lap in Islamabad. When I first saw it, I told [showrunner Alex Gansa] it was one of the show’s most beautiful episodes.

Yes, I thought there was something clever and almost subversive about it, compared to what we’ve come to expect from serialized, action-y shows. Also, one of the criticisms of past seasons was that the show was too unrealistic in piling on the narrative twists. This felt more grounded and earned than if Carrie, for instance, had stayed overseas and got the bad guy.
Right. It had its action climax already. And that’s what’s so great about the show—it can have different movements. It can be contemplative, it can be angry, it can have all sorts of different directions. Ultimately it’s a show called Homeland, and I thought it was important to bring it back to Carrie’s homeland. If you go back and look at [the season] as an entire movement, it’s an incredibly appropriate episode.

You mentioned that it was important to get Homeland back home. Does that go for season 5 as well?
I don’t think they’ve settled on anything. [Showrunner] Alex [Gansa] is is always very adamant he wants to focus on nothing but the season in front of him. But certainly going somewhere else overseas—they’re not going back to Pakistan—is one possibility.

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It’s a classic TV writer dilemma whether to put potential romantic partners together or to try to keep them apart as much as possible. Carrie and Quinn were briefly together last night, then pulled apart. I realize this is more of a question for the writers, but do you have a preference on that?
It’s unclear to me yet whether Carrie’s feelings for Quinn were momentary or deeper. And I don’t think the show is clear on that yet. Clearly, Quinn has had feelings for Carrie for a long time. I don’t want to speculate too much … my preference is that I’m not into the artificially elongated “will they or won’t they.” If you want to do it, go for it. Don’t be cute. My only preference is to try and remain unpredictable and avoid TV cliches.
 

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This is the reboot. A few of us been warning yall for weeks

All this entire season was, was homeland: reset

They did all that shyt to put Saul back in charge. Dal as the secret what's he really about guy. The senator is out but I'm sure he'll still show up. Carrie is back home. It's gonna be a US show again. And Quinn is back doing what he does

Next season it'll be their love back and forth joint. Saul saying no Carrie and carrie doing it anyway. And a surprise terrorist from the haqqani crew or paki Carrie



But 11 out of 12 wasn't bad considering last season. They got my faith back. Barely

Unfortunately I don't think Quinn Fisher is coming back:mjcry: his scenes felt pretty final and I can already see the first episode of season 5 opening up or ending with Carrie reading the letter he wrote to her in the event that he dies. His mission is also very detached from what Saul and Carrie do.
 

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They really need to end this show and move on but its Showtime so of course there will atleast 4 more seasons :mjlol:

The writers of this show are making a serious push to steal the WOAT crown from the Dexter writers

its a shame what this show has done to/with Carrie/Brody/Saul

Im officially out

They got me with Weeds and then with Dexter but not this time
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" :mjcry:
 

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This is a TV show. You're not going to see unimportant positions, only whats needed for the show. And google Dar Adal brings up 'Black ops director' which is exactly what I said, that is not deputy director. It's the Clandestine Service.

Are you kidding me? I KNOW he's the Black Ops director, but I also presumed he was second in command after Saul and continuing through with Lockhart. lol@ the Deputy Director of the CIA not being important- or what's going on in Washington. Since you want to be patronizing and clearly ignore what I asked, don't quote/respond to me again. Kthankxbye

Moving on, his deal with Haqqani can't be as simple as that. I'm glad this finale wasn't heart-stopping or anything but I'm def excited to see Season 5! Boo @ Quinn and Carrie together
 

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WTF was that brehs:snoop:


Such a dope season but it ended with a dud

I was looking at my TV like

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This season finale was garbage. This entire season had a few standout episodes, but for the most part was underwhelming. I should have thrown this whole show in the bushes after season 2...but at least season 3 had a purpose. Season 4 had no purpose at all.

I will only watch season 5 if the writers guarantee me that Carrie will be killed off in the season 5 finale.

i must have missed it dozing in and out...what's this about the "Saul Tape"..?? I saw Dar pass it over to Saul, but what does it contain? :dwillhuh:

They got a video of Saul suckin a dikk. Just like the David Aceveda tape on The Shield.
 

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This season finale was garbage. This entire season had a few standout episodes, but for the most part was underwhelming. I should have thrown this whole show in the bushes after season 2...but at least season 3 had a purpose. Season 4 had no purpose at all.

I will only watch season 5 if the writers guarantee me that Carrie will be killed off in the season 5 finale.



They got a video of Saul suckin a dikk. Just like the David Aceveda tape on The Shield.
:mjlol:

but for real though, did they explain what's on the tape?
 
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