OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

[ghostwriterx]

These are mostly nitpicks.. I can apply the same to any movie thread in this forum that ain't perfectly written, certain popular movies around here that nobody seems to be bringing up a lot of shyt that don't make sense. I'll refrain from spoiler territory but you know what I'm talking about.

Even if I agree with some of what you said, this whole "Cersei could have killed everyone" thing doesn't hold true to me. You do realize that the only reason Rhaegal got killed was because A) they were caught off guard but most importantly... and I stress importantly.. it was pointed out in this very episode that he was hurt and he needed to rest and Dany couldn't wait around because of the rightful heir plot that would be her demise.. so she took a chance and Rhaegal got killed.

The scorpions wouldn't have done shyt to Drogon. They could have fired at him but they would have missed and they would all be french toast right now

While that's plausible, there's no reason for Euron and Ceresi to know that. All they know is they clapped one dragon real quick and the other dipped out. Dany is sitting in front of King's Landing with her top general, top advisers and like 50 troops. And Drogon was too far away for Dany to get to in a hurry and ride. They not getting a better shot at ending this.

 

[Chris Cool]

They were traitors to her specifically...by being pledged to House Tyrell they were pledged to Daenerys.
You trying to act like killing a traitor during a war is outlandish is what's a cop-out.

Did she behead them?

I mean that's how every other King took care of traitors. From Robb, to Jon, hell even fukking Joffrey had the decency.

Naw.... She burned them alive. Son and father. Only a mad King doing some shyt like that.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I'm gonna focus on this part because "he gave them the ending!" is in relation to the WW dying early as fukk. People are interpreting him giving them the ending as, he's gonna kill the WW off in a similar manner and Cersei will be primary antagonist after that. Given how loosely Weiss and Benioff adapt the source material, there's nothing to suggest that.

Fred.

That's the thing... They haven't loosely adapted according to him. According to him they've been more faithful than "99% of shows ever made".. that's what he said word for word

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

I enjoyed the episode watching it in the moment but I'm convinced anyone arguing in favor of the writing is doing so out of blind loyalty. No way you can evaluate this and have it make sense.
Also for the people who argued that fan service doesn't exist, notice we got another unnecessary Lyana Mormont shot this episode. Not a major complaint, just a note.

 

[hex]

The 60 minutes interview was a few weeks ago. He said point blank they had conferences about the ending and he also said that they have been more faithful than 99% of shows and movies that are based on novels..

Now, you can say he's full of shyt.. fine. That's fine but you have no proof that he's full of shyt because he didn't finish the books. So we can either sit here and say what he said or we can get into what you really think he thinks.. which is all speculation and I don't like to get into speculation

That's the thing... They haven't loosely adapted according to him. According to him they've been more faithful than "99% of shows ever made".. that's what he said word for word

I am saying, 100% he's full of shyt. Because you can Google interviews, blog entries, social media quotes, etc. where he's passive aggressively criticized the show for botching and/or altering the source material. Literally, for years.

And, like I said, his own personal editor for his books said the same thing.

And all that was before they ran out of book material. So I'm not talking about him finishing the books specifically.

But the show is in it's final season, is a monster hit, and he has spin offs coming out. So what is he supposed to say? "Yeah, HBO fukked up my material....go watch the new series!"

Fred.

 

[Rayzah]

The internet is also the only place where cats assume whether or not people are happy based on if they can over look poor writing in a TV show.

Which is to me.

Most of the same cats in here criticizing this season, been die hard fans since day 1. Said this has the potential to be the GOAT. Praised it for years.

But since they're pointing out flaws now....they're miserable and never have anything positive to say.

shyt is crazy, man. If there was a small, vocal minority shytting on this season I could maybe understand your point. Fans been going in on social media....RT....IMDB....critics too. I don't fault people for liking this season but "you seem miserable" is not the card to play here. Most people seem to agree the writing fell off a cliff after "Beyond The Wall" last season, and never recovered.

Fred.

All them sites are on the internet. There are dudes on IMDb saying avengers was trash. RT are full of film snobs that think of a movies doesn’t make you cry then it’s trash. And the fukking Coli critics are only good for jokes and hating on shyt. My pint is fukk all of them nikkas and their snobby ass opinions

Yes y’all sound miserable picking this show apart instead of enjoying the final season of what y’all say is the GOAT. See for me this show as a whole is about an 8 cause all the politicking in the earlier seasons bored me but I respect it and understand why they did it that way. These last seasons to me is the pay off for all the talking about acts of betrayal. I can’t see why y’all can’t respect all the good action we been getting lately.

To me this show ain’t get good until season 2 or 3 but you ain’t see me all up in the thread picking it apart. My point is just cause the faster pace isn’t for you that doesn’t mean the show fell off. Let’s be real There was no way they could pay off 8 years in 6 episodes especially without the source material. And for all we know what happens here maybe better than whatever they do in the books if we even get that last book

 

[Tasha And]

These are mostly nitpicks.. I can apply the same to any movie thread in this forum that ain't perfectly written, certain popular movies around here that nobody seems to be bringing up a lot of shyt that don't make sense. I'll refrain from spoiler territory but you know what I'm talking about.

Even if I agree with some of what you said, this whole "Cersei could have killed everyone" thing doesn't hold true to me. You do realize that the only reason Rhaegal got killed was because A) they were caught off guard but most importantly... and I stress importantly.. it was pointed out in this very episode that he was hurt and he needed to rest and Dany couldn't wait around because of the rightful heir plot that would be her demise.. so she took a chance and Rhaegal got killed.

The scorpions wouldn't have done shyt to Drogon. They could have fired at him but they would have missed and they would all be french toast right now

What does Rhaegal being hurt have to do with how he was killed? He was fukking head shotted

Even if he was 100% healthy he was still getting killed by those heat seeking missiles that launch as if they've discovered gun powder and are strong enough to destroy ships.

Come on breh. There is no rhyme or reason to it, no foreshadowing that explains why Rhagael was easily dispatched but Drogon couldn't be. It's all because the plot demands it. Nothing else. Cersei could have ended the war and didn't because reasons.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Did she behead them?

I mean that's how every other King took care of traitors. From Robb, to Jon, hell even fukking Joffrey had the decency.

Naw.... She burned them alive. Son and father. Only a mad King doing some shyt like that.

She has dragons...why the fukk would she need to behead them?

And Joffrey had decency?:brucesideye:
Yeah...I'm gonna stop discussing this with you because you good and crazy and must be watching an entirely different show than the rest of the world.

 

[The_Sheff]

These are mostly nitpicks.. I can apply the same to any movie thread in this forum that ain't perfectly written, certain popular movies around here that nobody seems to be bringing up a lot of shyt that don't make sense. I'll refrain from spoiler territory but you know what I'm talking about.

Even if I agree with some of what you said, this whole "Cersei could have killed everyone" thing doesn't hold true to me. You do realize that the only reason Rhaegal got killed was because A) they were caught off guard but most importantly... and I stress importantly.. it was pointed out in this very episode that he was hurt and he needed to rest and Dany couldn't wait around because of the rightful heir plot that would be her demise.. so she took a chance and Rhaegal got killed.

The scorpions wouldn't have done shyt to Drogon. They could have fired at him but they would have missed and they would all be french toast right now

Drogon wasn't flying around, he was just sitting there. He can't move faster than a crossbow arrow. That scene makes no sense no matter how you slice it. The Cersei we have come to know would have bombed on that entire 15 man roster without hesitation.

I was content that we wouldn't get the series finished in the books since the show was doing pretty well but after this final season it sucks knowing we won't ever know how this joint was supposed to play out.

 

[42 Monks]

These are mostly nitpicks.. I can apply the same to any movie thread in this forum that ain't perfectly written, certain popular movies around here that nobody seems to be bringing up a lot of shyt that don't make sense. I'll refrain from spoiler territory but you know what I'm talking about.

Even if I agree with some of what you said, this whole "Cersei could have killed everyone" thing doesn't hold true to me. You do realize that the only reason Rhaegal got killed was because A) they were caught off guard but most importantly... and I stress importantly.. it was pointed out in this very episode that he was hurt and he needed to rest and Dany couldn't wait around because of the rightful heir plot that would be her demise.. so she took a chance and Rhaegal got killed.

The scorpions wouldn't have done shyt to Drogon. They could have fired at him but they would have missed and they would all be french toast right now

"its nitpicking"

breh stop it. I ain't getting on Rhaegal getting killed because its obvious these dragons were too powerful and had to go. Its whatever. No one cares that Rhagal died because he was wounded (it would've made more sense to have him die in the previous episode but whatever) but the fact that a whole damn fleet can be hidden from an oracle in bran, an adjacent fleet with yara, a varys' spy network, obvious shyt like plain sight, etc is the issue lol. The problem isn't what's happening because its necessary to steer the plot in a certain direction, its how. I've hit on that in detail and if you think that any of those general things I hit on is nitpicking then you've never been that invested in the show. I didn't even mention that dragon in the post because its not that big of a deal honestly - I think many feel the same way. Its got about the same value as the coffee cup...

And no, you're not applying the same shyt to any movie because other movies and series know to respect their own characters/rules in play and when they don't, they get shyt on accordingly. Superman betrays his character by smashing half of metropolis fighting one guy to save lives, Batman murdering someone, John Wick kicking puppies - that's what this shyt is turning into lol. Maesters and people from the citadel are sought out by every house in the world - but a legitimate all seeing oracle like Bran doesn't even get asked basic questions when he's on screen scouting armies beyond the wall just one season ago.

That's not nitpicking. You're defending shyt for weird ass reasons

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

While that's plausible, there's no reason for Euron and Ceresi to know that. All they know is they clapped one dragon real quick and the other dipped out. Dany is sitting in front of King's Landing with her top general, top advisers and like 50 troops. And Drogon was too far away for Dany to get to in a hurry and ride. They not getting a better shot at ending this.

Varys is trying to get Dany taken out behind the scenes and Qyburn runs Varys old spy network.. I wouldn't say there's "no reason" how they could have this information. We don't know. Maybe it was bad writing, maybe they do know the info from Qyburn's spies..

Also, Euron killed Rhaegal lackin but then they had SEVERAL shots at Drogon and missed.. Don't you think maybe he is wondering how he couldn't hit the other one?

 

[Tasha And]

See for me this show as a whole is about an 8 cause all the politicking in the earlier seasons bored me

Well there it is. That explains all the

 

[BlaqkSpliffin]

Did she behead them?

I mean that's how every other King took care of traitors. From Robb, to Jon, hell even fukking Joffrey had the decency.

Naw.... She burned them alive. Son and father. Only a mad King doing some shyt like that.

Or someone with Dragons

Imagine thinking Arya and Sansa wouldn't burn shyt to the ground if they had them dragons

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

And no, you're not applying the same shyt to any movie because other movies and series know to respect their own characters/rules in play

Do they? I could go in some of these current movie threads right now and have a field day.

But I'm not gonna bother because I don't give a shyt about nitpicks like that, I expect them.

 

[klutch2381]

I like how G Arya kept it. “Yeah, we did NEED her army. We NEEDED her dragons. We’re talking past tense. We don’t need them now. fukk that bish.”

 

[Chris Cool]

She has dragons...why the fukk would she need to behead them?

And Joffrey had decency?:brucesideye:
Yeah...I'm gonna stop discussing this with you because you good and crazy and must be watching an entirely different show than the rest of the world.

Did Joffrey burn ned alive? Naw he was beheaded. You can't dispute shyt i said, that's why you're going to stop discussing. She burned father and son alive. Literally, only a mad King did that.