Official fight thread for GGG vs Lemieux: Oct 17 HBO PPV

[GREENandYELLOW]

That's the thing Krack

Iont stan promoters and networks but it's hard not to fully support PBC with what they're doing right now

hbo is competing with PBC by taking months off and they come back by double dipping us and putting on unwarranted PPV's

Besides :jcc:and Shobox, Showtime has thrown in the towel and have nothing scheduled

Meanwhile PBC putting boxing iont have to pay extra for on ESPN, NBC,NBCSN,CBS,SPIKE & Bounce in August alone

Premium cable boxing looking real right now

It is interesting. Usually I DVR the PBC stuff because I feel like they add a lot of fluff to the broadcasts and I just want to fast forward through a lot.

I still prefer HBO and Showtime's commentators more...although I really liked the FNF crew on ESPN. NBC is bad. SRL is pretty horrible.

The big thing they need to figure out is how to make it an event, which HBO and Showtime are great at. They make every fight seem like a big showcase. PBC has had two stellar matchups with Peterson-Garcia and Broner-Porter and they felt meh on the hype meter during the fight. Had those been on HBO or Showtime it would have felt real live. With matchups and fighters there is nothing that PBC can't do on regular TV that the premium networks charge for. I think they just need to get the production value up.

 

[patscorpio]

That's the thing Krack

Iont stan promoters and networks but it's hard not to fully support PBC with what they're doing right now

hbo is competing with PBC by taking months off and they come back by double dipping us and putting on unwarranted PPV's

Besides :jcc:and Shobox, Showtime has thrown in the towel and have nothing scheduled

Meanwhile PBC putting boxing iont have to pay extra for on ESPN, NBC,NBCSN,CBS,SPIKE & Bounce in August alone

Premium cable boxing looking real right now

breh quantity doesn't necessarily mean quality...ive watched every pbc so far..hell me and you and others on here have been in the house for it..pbc's biggest problem is its matchmaking..with the talent Haymon has they should be able to put on fights similar to GGG-Lemieux..but they are not....as long as thats still an issue PBC can still be outshined by cards on HBO, showtime, or etc..the lemieux-n'dam card was better the broner-porter on PBC..unfortunately it was on a channel thats not on everyone's cable system..its nice that boxing is all over the place like PBC intended but its just as flawed just as anything else

 

[mr. smoke weed]

breh quantity doesn't necessarily mean quality...ive watched every pbc so far..hell me and you and others on here have been in the house for it..pbc's biggest problem is its matchmaking..with the talent Haymon has they should be able to put on fights similar to GGG-Lemieux..but they are not....as long as thats still an issue PBC can still be outshined by cards on HBO, showtime, or etc..the lemieux-n'dam card was better the broner-porter on PBC..unfortunately it was on a channel thats not on everyone's cable system..its nice that boxing is all over the place like PBC intended but its just as flawed just as anything else

Friend do you not think PBC has done well in its first 5 months? Keep it 100? Do you not think Schaef dogs return will help out PBC?

 

[patscorpio]

Friend do you not think PBC has done well in its first 5 months? Keep it 100? Do you not think Schaef dogs return will help out PBC?

its done well because its still a new thing...PBC isnt a solution yet to boxing on PPV or boxing on the premiums if the quality of the fights are not on a high level whether on paper or fight wise. Hell with all the fights they've aired I dont even think they even have one fight yet that you can say is a FOTY candidate...right now they dont have schaefer or anyone with a boxing mind putting these fights together..oscar/gbp has that boxing mind and thats why we are getting this GGG-Lemieux fight, which has a FOTY written on it provided it goes some rounds

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

its done well because its still a new thing...PBC isnt a solution yet to boxing on PPV or boxing on the premiums if the quality of the fights are not on a high level whether on paper or fight wise. Hell with all the fights they've aired I dont even think they even have one fight yet that you can say is a FOTY candidate...right now they dont have schaefer or anyone with a boxing mind putting these fights together..oscar/gbp has that boxing mind and thats why we are getting this GGG-Lemieux fight, which has a FOTY written on it provided it goes some rounds

Pascal/Gonzalez was a better scrap than anything PBC has shown me. Match making is definitely an issue over there. They'll get it right sometimes, (Dirrell/Degale, Swift/Peterson for example) but then give nikkas Rances/Demarco or Stevenson/Bika.

shyt is hit and miss. I think they need to build up fights instead of just randomly throwing nikkas together. Broner and Figeroua should share a card and then we see them fight each other down the line. They got an easy fan friendly fight that they can get buzzing, but they might not even do it.

 

[Newzz]

Pascal/Gonzalez was a better scrap than anything PBC has shown me. Match making is definitely an issue over there. They'll get it right sometimes, (Dirrell/Degale, Swift/Peterson for example) but then give nikkas Rances/Demarco or Stevenson/Bika.

shyt is hit and miss. I think they need to build up fights instead of just randomly throwing nikkas together. Broner and Figeroua should share a card and then we see them fight each other down the line. They got an easy fan friendly fight that they can get buzzing, but they might not even do it.

My current fight of the year

 

[HamAndEgger]

"Are you F*ckin Serious?"

:GGG:

 

[malbaker86]

40 bucks to see the hype train derailed I'm in

#LemieuxLovers coming for Cotto once he disposes of Scalabrine

I'd roll with Cotto though....I ride with Cotto til the end

Scalabrine

 

[yawn]

breh quantity doesn't necessarily mean quality...ive watched every pbc so far..hell me and you and others on here have been in the house for it..pbc's biggest problem is its matchmaking..with the talent Haymon has they should be able to put on fights similar to GGG-Lemieux..but they are not....as long as thats still an issue PBC can still be outshined by cards on HBO, showtime, or etc..the lemieux-n'dam card was better the broner-porter on PBC..unfortunately it was on a channel thats not on everyone's cable system..its nice that boxing is all over the place like PBC intended but its just as flawed just as anything else

How you feel about their matchmaking is how you feel but I and many others have enjoyed it so far
In only 4 months they've put on plenty great fights and PBC has been fair to all fighters

I'll take the Ndam/Lemieux fight you mentioned as an example
Not only was the fight officiated by a Canadian referee who is one of the worst in boxing, GB attempted to have all Canadian judges but Ndam's team caught on
Ndam a boxer faced Lemieux in a ring the size of a child's playpen and Ndam was reportedly paid only 50k

I've yet to see PBC slant the odds in their fighters favor like this ^ and they're averaging a big fight every month. If you gotta issue with that then

I think they need to build up fights instead of just randomly throwing nikkas together. Broner and Figeroua should share a card and then we see them fight each other down the line. They got an easy fan friendly fight that they can get buzzing, but they might not even do it.

You're right and I agree with this but PBC isn't afforded that luxury
When a PBC card isn't a mega one "people" and some "Boxing Media" will complain

Monroe v golovkin is celebrated by the media whilst Thurman/Collazo, Khan/Algeria, Figueroa/Burns, Frampton/Gonzalez and Ward/Smith are condemned by the media for being mismatches

Why is this brehs

 

[mr. smoke weed]

@yawn I mostly agree but you don't think the initial weight hydration clause was fukkery in broner/porter?

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

How you feel about their matchmaking is how you feel but I and many others have enjoyed it so far
In only 4 months they've put on plenty great fights and PBC has been fair to all fighters

I'll take the Ndam/Lemieux fight you mentioned as an example
Not only was the fight officiated by a Canadian referee who is one of the worst in boxing, GB attempted to have all Canadian judges but Ndam's team caught on
Ndam a boxer faced Lemieux in a ring the size of a child's playpen and Ndam was reportedly paid only 50k

I've yet to see PBC slant the odds in their fighters favor like this ^ and they're averaging a big fight every month. If you gotta issue with that then





You're right and I agree with this but PBC isn't afforded that luxury
When a PBC card isn't a mega one "people" and some "Boxing Media" will complain

Monroe v golovkin is celebrated by the media whilst Thurman/Collazo, Khan/Algeria, Figueroa/Burns, Frampton/Gonzalez and Ward/Smith are condemned by the media for being mismatches

Why is this brehs

Nobody is shytting on PBC. It's good what they're doing and it's still new, it's just that since they signed up over 60% of the game, you expect them to do better as far as match ups are concerned.

147 is deeper than 160. Monroe/Golovkin was a fun mismatch where we knew what to expect. GGG fights 3-4 times a year so you know he's going to get the opportunity to possibly fight someone better/more known during the year. (which ended up happening since the Lemiux fight just got made)

Guys like Thurman for example are only going to most likely only fight twice a year so naturally everyone would want one of those fights to be more high profile against a top 10 opponent. The Ghost fight was decent and going in the right direction, but Collazo was more of a lateral move if anything and didn't propel #Thurminators ahead really.

Khan/Algieri was just Amir cherry picking and having it blow up in his face when he ending up getting his ass kicked and needing a gift to win a decision.

Figeroua/Burns was one of the most action packed fights PBC has had and it put both back in the mix of things with their performances. Frampton/Gonzalez was a good fight, no complaint there. Ward/Smith was a tuneup fight that we all knew had to happen. Nothing to expect in that one.

We have no control over what the media says or does. They'll just fukk with certain fights more than others for whatever reason.

 

[Alpha Dog]

Dan Rafael ‏@danrafaelespn 2m2 minutes ago
. @GaryShawBoxing told me he got offer for @BYJennings to face Luis Ortiz on #GGGLemieux PPV. He'll talk to manager James Prince about it.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Dan Rafael ‏@danrafaelespn 2m2 minutes ago
. @GaryShawBoxing told me he got offer for @BYJennings to face Luis Ortiz on #GGGLemieux PPV. He'll talk to manager James Prince about it.

If Jennings and Little Chocolate Gonzales are on this undercard

 

[JoeClair]

PPV?

 

[THE MACHINE]

Presser going on now in N.Y.