Official Destiny Thread [RISE OF IRON OUT NOW!]
Shorty ain't even come thru last night
If you played with me last night you will know
damn, we could have used u too.
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Shorty ain't even come thru last night
If you played with me last night you will know
@lightskin jermaine y'all beat the Templar?
yea we beat the templar. we're at the portal stage right before the final boss.
Notorious Jerry
Change&Hope Ambassador
We need to set up a Iron Banner night on here can get some groups popin.
OaklandCertified
Town Business
Im down...be on later tonight
what lvl u at?
those stats describe me almost perfectly
this article also addresses the iron banner in case y'all skipped it
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
If you’re feeling that, we’re feeling it too. You’d probably love to talk to a designer who can shed some light on the subject. Since that’s a perk of my gig, I’ll share with you a conversation I had with Senior Designer Derek Carroll.
Please tell us about how Iron Banner works. There are a lot of Level 30 Guardians out there who thought they had a shot at immortality against everyone but each other.
Derek: If you were expecting to vaporize a crowd of noobs with a single burst from your SUROS Regime, I can see how you’d be disappointed. Imagine going into the Iron Banner as a mid-20s player totally unable to participate in the fun. We didn’t want players to have to complete the Vault of Glass in order to compete
But we told them that “Power Matters!” We even put a gaudy flaming banner on our website. Fire is hard to animate, you know.
Derek: The way we pitched Iron Banner did make it sound like a “no-holds-barred” playlist. In reality, we delivered what we felt would be a competitive experience for everyone, not just players at the level cap. The reaction from players seems to be: “No, we want it to be bad for lower-level players. That’s the point!”
We’re listening to that feedback, but this first Iron Banner is fairly conservative.
So power doesn’t matter?
Derek: Power certainly matters, but so does skill. Our solution to add power back into the mix and keep the Crucible from turning into a ghost town is to scale it down to a reasonable level, and clamp damage on the “overkill” end.
A decked-out endgame Guardian can’t defeat a low-level guardian with one shot from an Auto-Rifle. In fact, “time-to-kill” is the same when you’re using higher-level gear against lower-level gear. The opposite is not true, so an enemy with average weapons is going to have a harder time taking you out.
If you want to test this, go back to your vault and grab some of the guns you outgrew on Venus and feel the difference in your engagements. If you really want to feel the burn, start a new Guardian and jump right into the fray.
Some people have done just that, though. Can you explain how a Level 5 Guardian can use a starter gun to take down a Raid veteran?
Derek: Your skill will take you 80% of the way to victory, but that last 20% will be a much harder climb without the gear you’ve been relying on.
Then what is the exact advantage that I gain from powerful weapons and gear?
Derek: Having a lot of Defense reduces the damage you take from lower level players. Conversely, having a lot of Attack on your Weapons or high character level for your Abilities neutralizes the advantage higher level players might have against you.
To keep competition close and avoid unwinnable fights, the largest advantage you can have is around 7 levels. So, if you attacked a target 20 levels above you, you’d have a fair shot at winning that fight.
If this was not supposed to be a Raider’s paradise, what was the overall goal?
If this was not supposed to be a Raider’s paradise, what was the overall goal?
Derek: The Crucible is intended to be a fun, competitive experience for players of all skill levels. The Iron Banner playlist skews toward the “hardcore” end of the spectrum. We still find matches based on skill, not character level, so if you find yourself in a game with players with much better gear than you, you should feel good about that. Lord Saladin thinks you can take them.
Sadly, but predictably, not everyone is so confident in themselves. What are you gonna do about all the quitters?
Sadly, but predictably, not everyone is so confident in themselves. What are you gonna do about all the quitters?
Derek: Please remind players that, win or lose, they get Crucible Marks, XP, and Gear rewards for completing the match. As with all things Destiny, we’re looking at the data and we’ll come up with a plan to address it in future events.
he said exactly what I've been saying about the banner: skill matters more than anything and high level shyt doesn't equal a win....the majority of people complaining about the banner figured just cause they were high levels and/or had good shyt, they would automatically win, and that aint the case....all having the high level shyt does is stack the deck in your favor, you still have to be able to play...which is what he said...that's what I expected and what I got....
also, if it was a free for all like some wanted, that shyt would be a ghost town cause the player pool would be smaller...the ones complaining and quitting now, would still be complaining and quitting then...only difference would be they'd losing to high levels....
...to me, only thing they need to work on is what to do about quitters and how it affects the game....he hinted at that, so that's a good thing...