Official "Dark Side Of The Ring" Discussion Thread
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Good post but I don’t think he was a top draw always. while bam bam was a main eventer at times it never really seemed to me like he drew money, sold merch or was can’t miss tv. That’s Probably the reason why he never stuck around promotions too long. Even the LT match which was designed to be a crossover media spectacle was kind of a dud in buy rate/ payoff. It was a great match considering it was with a non-wrestler, but I’m not convinced Bam Bam ever really put “butts in seats”. He was def a workhorse and super agile for his size, but you can make the argument he was never a draw or lived up to his potential of being a top heel
That wasn’t the only claim at all, the primary claim was the he owned and operated several businesses being “illiterate”, which is a lot more of a stretch and less feasible than ordering a damn cheeseburger
BATB 2000 episode was pretty good, it’s fun to revisit end of life struggle WCW
The narrative itself is convoluted, though Jeff Jarrett comes out looking the best, Russo is surprisingly tolerable/ right here and Bischoff is just smug and hearing him try to spin everything is just pathetic. Hogan comes off as a major POS as well, his creative control clause is misguided and ludicrous in hindsight
The one thing I couldn’t really make sense of was Vince Russo‘s shoot after the match. Which Bischoff and Russo seem to say was planned, but at the same time Hogan filed a lawsuit? I really don’t think Bischoff knew that it was going to happen. The announcers were also clearly caught off guard. Russo probably just didn’t give a sh1t and Bischoff is acting like he knew about it to give the illusion he had everything under control
The narrative itself is convoluted, though Jeff Jarrett comes out looking the best, Russo is surprisingly tolerable/ right here and Bischoff is just smug and hearing him try to spin everything is just pathetic. Hogan comes off as a major POS as well, his creative control clause is misguided and ludicrous in hindsight
The one thing I couldn’t really make sense of was Vince Russo‘s shoot after the match. Which Bischoff and Russo seem to say was planned, but at the same time Hogan filed a lawsuit? I really don’t think Bischoff knew that it was going to happen. The announcers were also clearly caught off guard. Russo probably just didn’t give a sh1t and Bischoff is acting like he knew about it to give the illusion he had everything under control
blues_funk_reggae
Veteran
I was thinking of all the story lines that Hogan vetoed throughout the years that we never heard about. I have a feeling he was using that 'creating control' clause heavy through the years.
edit: I'm rewatching the Brawl for All episode
edit: I'm rewatching the Brawl for All episode
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Bash at the beach was a good episode and it showed how EB got lucky with WCW. EB was really out of his depth when the NWO storyline got stale
I feel that would be a very interesting episode. I want to know all of the stuff Hogan did in his power trip in WCW.I was thinking of all the story lines that Hogan vetoed throughout the years that we never heard about. I have a feeling he was using that 'creating control' clause heavy through the years.
edit: I'm rewatching the Brawl for All episode
Cattle Mutilation
Superstar
And Eric Bischoff has the nerve to criticize anyone else for creative when the only good thing he did in WCW - the nWo - he stole from Japan.
He's the biggest conman in wrestling. He's always critical, but we all know what happens when he gets the keys. I know Russo was awful, but they had to resort to Russo because EB didn't know how to capitalize after NWO. Then with TNA him and Hogan killed any momentum TNA built up.
The Entity
Pro
I think Eric B comes off smug and because of that, his contributions have been underrated. The nwo had lots of elements that made it great, irs not just the assembly of the three. You has perfect imagery, theme song, cross promotion with Rodman and Leno, spray paint, on and on. Saying he was just a 1 hit wonder really diminishes what the nwo is.
Then you had Goldberg, crow sting, the light heavyweight division, DDP, the red nwo, going live, etc. which were all massive success points for him and WCW. He brought over Hulk at a time people were fed about with him and was in the twilight of his career. Yes, plenty of things wrong too, but he had way too many successes to be dubed a run away moron. You can't have that many things go right accidentally.
Then you had Goldberg, crow sting, the light heavyweight division, DDP, the red nwo, going live, etc. which were all massive success points for him and WCW. He brought over Hulk at a time people were fed about with him and was in the twilight of his career. Yes, plenty of things wrong too, but he had way too many successes to be dubed a run away moron. You can't have that many things go right accidentally.
Bugzbunny129
All Star
if what they saying in the batb 2000 ep is true, hogan is def the goat politician of all wrestlers. Thats quite a move to pull against a corporation with their own corporate officer at that. He had eric wrapped around his finger.
Frankly bret shoulda did the same thing. If they have it in their contracts they have creative control, they got creative control.
I always wondered with the way smarks hate hogan, theyd love russo for this move. But they hate both lol.
Frankly bret shoulda did the same thing. If they have it in their contracts they have creative control, they got creative control.
I always wondered with the way smarks hate hogan, theyd love russo for this move. But they hate both lol.
Cattle Mutilation
Superstar
Crow Sting was Scott Hall's idea
The Entity
Pro
Yes but the gimmick flourished bc of the anticipation that happened under Eric. The coming from the rafters, the not speaking, etc. Wasn't saying he thought of the idea but all of the great moments that made that sting iconic were approved by Eric. He wasn't some hands off scrub, he should get credit for knowing good ideas and whatever his contributions were .
