Official CryptoCurrency Thread (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum & More)

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Please explain. Very uneducated and baseless.
Quick money like that is a Ponzi scheme. Warren Buffet like to say that his favorite holding period for stock is "forever". He values stock based upon the dividends it pays, not the value bubbles created by people who overvalue shyt. I suggest you consider doing the same.
 

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That's right, right now there is no protection. It's fool-proof money. So only deal with entities you trust or get burn. A true free market, no bail outs, no bail ins.

If you lose your Bitcoin, it is mostly your own fault.

But consumer protection is coming, there is already companies insuring Bitcoin transactions in the UK. Bitcoin will also allow for easy escrow services to prevent fraud.
A "truly free market" is for sharks, B. Sure you want that?
 

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Quick money like that is a Ponzi scheme. Warren Buffet like to say that his favorite holding period for stock is "forever". He values stock based upon the dividends it pays, not the value bubbles created by people who overvalue shyt. I suggest you consider doing the same.

:heh:

Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is

Buffet has said himself he doesn't understand how to value tech stock. Bitcoin is a technology. Why should I hear his opinion
 

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:heh:

Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is

Buffet has said himself he doesn't understand how to value tech stock. Bitcoin is a technology. Why should I hear his opinion
Bitcoin is currency... Do you make a dividend? That's normally a requirement of a stock.
 

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Bitcoin is currency... Do you make a dividend? That's normally a requirement of a stock.

Bitcoin is currency, commodity, tech stock IPO.

Your failure is in trying to compare its economical properties to traditional asset classes
 

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I'm ready to hear ya. What's wrong with Bitcoin
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. I'm simply saying that making money off of currency itself is not a good strategy in the long run. Nor is buying real estate or stocks because you think their value will increase in value. There are sharks in the waters that can make far bigger transactions than you ever will in your wildest dreams that will shape the market. You will be at whim to their desire. Either get insider trading secrets, or GTFO and stick to buying things that show verifiable value, which is dividend in the case of stocks or rental value in the case of real estate (although, I'm not sure you want to put so much effort into real estate anyway). Or simply buy something you will get use out of, like a primary residence.
 

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I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. I'm simply saying that making money off of currency itself is not a good strategy in the long run.

unless it is deflationary
 

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I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. I'm simply saying that making money off of currency itself is not a good strategy in the long run. Nor is buying real estate or stocks because you think their value will increase in value. There are sharks in the waters that can make far bigger transactions than you ever will in your wildest dreams that will shape the market. You will be at whim to their desire. Either get insider trading secrets, or GTFO and stick to buying things that show verifiable value, which is dividend in the case of stocks or rental value in the case of real estate (although, I'm not sure you want to put so much effort into real estate anyway). Or simply buy something you will get use out of, like a primary residence.
but there are cats who make real money just on currency. more than 15 yrs ago :usure::old:i read an article on forbes or similar mag of a guy who bill gates employees just to make money trading currencies. the guy was in his 20s back then. made hundreds of millions of dollars doing that.
 

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but there are cats who make real money just on currency. more than 15 yrs ago :usure::old:i read an article on forbes or similar mag of a guy who bill gates employees just to make money trading currencies. the guy was in his 20s back then. made hundreds of millions of dollars doing that.
It can be done. Anything can be done. It's just not a good strategy.
 

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Just a question for those that know more about cryptocurrency: What if someone were to invest heavily in the infastructure to mine for bitcoins? Would they be very successful at this point, after the initial appreciation?

Just to throw ballpark numbers out there....

at $100,000 worth of hardware?
at $500,000 worth of hardware?
at $1,000,000 worth of hardware?
at $10,000,000 worth of hardware?

Because if so, this seems like an inevitable result. And if this is so, again for those who know more, wouldn't that just make these hardware hogs the de facto banks?
 

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Just a question for those that know more about cryptocurrency: What if someone were to invest heavily in the infastructure to mine for bitcoins? Would they be very successful at this point, after the initial appreciation?

Just to throw ballpark numbers out there....

at $100,000 worth of hardware?
at $500,000 worth of hardware?
at $1,000,000 worth of hardware?
at $10,000,000 worth of hardware?

Because if so, this seems like an inevitable result. And if this is so, again for those who know more, wouldn't that just make these hardware hogs the de facto banks?
Investing 100K worth in hardware? :wtf:

Listen, if you want to get heavy into this shyt then consider a 20K budget max and mine ALTCOINS (DOGE mostly) and convert to a split of mostly bitcoin/litecoin and maybe 1-2 other altcoins that you think have potential.

Do NOT mine Bitcoin unless you are trying to build a NASA like room with a bunch of ASICS out there...I am not sure that's a smart move either though.

So let's say you grab four 280x's and run it 24/7...you are looking at about $279 dollars profit after or about 0.68 bitcoin per month after electric charges. Four 280x's will run you about $1,600
 

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In othernews, lately LTC seems to not follow BTC's trend anymore. Looks like it's freeing itself from his big bro or maybe people trading BTC for LTC as the latter is going strong with some good news the past few days.
Could be temporary obviously, but it's good to see what is a good and serious (not like all this new altcoins) alternative to BTC possibly rising.
I got 5 but I will mine more :mjpls:
 

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So my finance teacher is making me write a paper on this and he made us all read this article.

http://bear.warrington.ufl.edu/Banko/TP2/Andreessen.pdf

::lupe:

Best explanation of it i've seen thus far. I like the comparisons of it to the internet when it was first invented, i can see similar reactions to such disruptive technology like that.

Also the bit about it being pretty much like having regular money in the real world where you don't have to input personal information to get a product or pay someone made it much clearer for me.

Can't say I'm against it, i'm just gonna have to adjust if it really catches on

The potential impact is wild:

No credit card fraud
No bank fees
Public Payments (this dude held up a sign with a QR code at a sporting event and got $25,000 worth of bitcoin) would be great for protest movements
Could help newspaper industry
Reduce spam
Avoid problems like the stolen identity information fiasco that happened at Target

:wow:
 
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