Official Cruiserweight Classic Thread

[TBdaGhost]

Second round and on is gonna be banana's

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

ZSJ definitely isnt for everyone.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Is it me or did ZSJ come off very smug despite being a babyface

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Another dancing indian wrestler......

Time to dead all this dancing shyt

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

coast to coast and end of heartbreak

 

[Playaz Eyez]

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Spoiler

Ditto to ZSJ, I'm ehhh about him

 

[Jmare007]

Kinda surprised that not all TSC in big on ZBJ. I still think he needs to work more on his character as I continue to feel most of his matches are exhibitions instead of an actual match, but dude is crisp as fukk and does some really cool shyt that TSC would be about.

Drew Gulak dressed like a registered massage therapist, he's very good in the ring though

I've always found it funny that the most "pro wrestling" Gulak has ever looked was when he was fukking Silver Ant in Chikara

 

[trick]

Kinda surprised that not all TSC in big on ZBJ. I still think he needs to work more on his character as I continue to feel most of his matches are exhibitions instead of an actual match, but dude is crisp as fukk and does some really cool shyt that TSC would be about.



I've always found it funny that the most "pro wrestling" Gulak as ever looked was when he was fukking Silver Ant in Chikara

I don't think ZBJ's style is something that's easy to take. It's definitely not gonna get over in front of an audience that grew up with TLC and HIAC matches. But yeah, that wasn't his best work. It really felt like an exhibition. A lot of the transitions out of a hold didn't lead anywhere and felt unnecessary. If he was trying to get over as a legit bad ass doing submissions, he should probably emulate more MMA and watch Sakuraba instead of emulating World of Sport stuff. It just felt like the wrong time/place to be doing that stuff.

 

[Jmare007]

I don't think ZBJ's style is something that's easy to take. It's definitely not gonna get over in front of an audience that grew up with TLC and HIAC matches. But yeah, that wasn't his best work. It really felt like an exhibition. A lot of the transitions out of a hold didn't lead anywhere and felt unnecessary. If he was trying to get over as a legit bad ass doing submissions, he should probably emulate more MMA and watch Sakuraba instead of emulating World of Sport stuff. It just felt like the wrong time/place to be doing that stuff.

That's my main problem with him. His "look at how many dope things I can pull off" gets kinda tiring after a while when there's not a lot more depth to his matches, just like workers that do amazing flippy shyt but not much else.

Now, I'll also admit that I haven't been checking every ZBJ in the past 2 years and the one's I've seen have been for the most part, really good to great. BUT I still have a hard time believing he's having a match he wants to win instead of an encounter he uses to showcase his cool shyt and not much more. Maybe it's something about his look and facial expressions more than his work because I have a similar problem with Timothy Thatcher but the last 2-3 years Thatcher has gotten better at emoting and showing that he's more than a WOS cosplay wrestler.

 

[trick]

That's my main problem with him. His "look at how many dope things I can pull off" gets kinda tiring after a while when there's not a lot more depth to his matches, just like workers that do amazing flippy shyt but not much else.

Now, I'll also admit that I haven't been checking every ZBJ in the past 2 years and the one's I've seen have been for the most part, really good to great. BUT I still have a hard time believing he's having a match he wants to win instead of an encounter he uses to showcase his cool shyt and not much more. Maybe it's something about his look and facial expressions more than his work because I have a similar problem with Timothy Thatcher but the last 2-3 years Thatcher has gotten better at emoting and showing that he's more than a WOS cosplay wrestler.

Don't think it has anything to do with his look, it's just the work. Gulak looks like a male masseuse and he was more believable as a submission wrestler. If you watch a BJJ/grappling match, they're not twisting and turning for the hell of it -- they want to end it ASAP.

 

[TheGodling]

Probably the worst round of the tournament so far. Full Sail exposed themselves again cheering on ZSJ in the opening but quickly grew dead as they failed to grasp the technical wrestling because they only want flippy indie shyt from this, and it certainly didn't help this was a glorified squash match that was only supposed to show off ZSJ's skills without any kind of storytelling or psychology. One only has to look at the Mendoza/Kendrick match to see how much that makes a difference, dudes went from being 'ehhh...' on Mendoza to cheering for him when he found the strength to hit that Coast To Coast.

Matter of fact, Drew Gulak suffered from that same problem. Too much emphasis on showing off without actually showing out.

 

[the_FUTURE]

Is Zack the new sensation?

if people end up begging for him to have the Universal or WWE title be put on him.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

That's my main problem with him. His "look at how many dope things I can pull off" gets kinda tiring after a while when there's not a lot more depth to his matches, just like workers that do amazing flippy shyt but not much else.

Now, I'll also admit that I haven't been checking every ZBJ in the past 2 years and the one's I've seen have been for the most part, really good to great. BUT I still have a hard time believing he's having a match he wants to win instead of an encounter he uses to showcase his cool shyt and not much more. Maybe it's something about his look and facial expressions more than his work because I have a similar problem with Timothy Thatcher but the last 2-3 years Thatcher has gotten better at emoting and showing that he's more than a WOS cosplay wrestler.

That's exactly how I feel when watching his matches

 

[Jmare007]

Probably the worst round of the tournament so far. Full Sail exposed themselves again cheering on ZSJ in the opening but quickly grew dead as they failed to grasp the technical wrestling because they only want flippy indie shyt from this, and it certainly didn't help this was a glorified squash match that was only supposed to show off ZSJ's skills without any kind of storytelling or psychology. One only has to look at the Mendoza/Kendrick match to see how much that makes a difference, dudes went from being 'ehhh...' on Mendoza to cheering for him when he found the strength to hit that Coast To Coast.

Matter of fact, Drew Gulak suffered from that same problem. Too much emphasis on showing off without actually showing out.

I get what you are saying but it's only the first round and it makes sense there's some hierarchy and squash matches. I'm fine with some matches being forgettable showcases as long as there's payoff in the next round.

ZBJ and Gulak got to squash their opponents and show off their technical skills as a preview to their 2nd round match. Now they have a nice story going into that match of who has the better mat skills and can advance to the Quarterfinals. That's good booking imo, even though it meant to mediocre matches to get there.

 

[Ribbs]

Braces while wrestling? That's a first.

I'll be honest, I've been mixing up Zack Sabre with Will Ospreay for the last few months. They're both white, pale and British.

And yes, ZSJ is very smug, can't be acting like that when you got no pectoral muscle or tricep meat.