Official coli NL East thread. #Braves #Mets #Marlins #Nats #Phils

[AnonymityX1000]

So let me change that, in a few days we're going to be the best baseball team in NYC

You see it. Trade starting pitching when you need starting pitching at the deadline brehs. lol

 

[Remote]

That's interesting because the competition is better in the playoffs than over the course of 162 games. So the stats being the same mean they elevated their play doesn't it?

They aren’t the same. They’re similar.
But it doesn’t mean anyone elevated anything.

Just like a hitter might perform similarly (or marginally worse) in the postseason, a pitcher might perform similarly or marginally worse in the postseason.

But over time the numbers would largely mirror their play in the regular season.

 

[Remote]

he's a yankee fan

Do you want to talk about the Yankees roster because I can critique that too.

 

[ikbm]

Do you want to talk about the Yankees roster because I can critique that too.

Oh I didnt say that to say you're biased. I was just correcting him. I like how you acknowledged this and skipped right over me fairly analyzing both teams weaknesses and strengths debunking your off-base claims. braves having a better rotation amongst other things

 

[AnonymityX1000]

They aren’t the same. They’re similar.
But it doesn’t mean anyone elevated anything.

Just like a hitter might perform similarly (or marginally worse) in the postseason, a pitcher might perform similarly or marginally worse in the postseason.

But over time the numbers would largely mirror their play in the regular season.

Yeah, I can't agree. The bigger the moment the more outside pressure than just the act itself there is to perform and the competition is better. And every player falls in one of 3 categories. Some people elevate their play, some remain the same some get worse. And you can usually just see it using your eyes. Stats do not tell the entire story. Most regular season situations have little added pressure while playoffs have more. If you can maintain your normal performance or perhaps elevate it you are clutch.

 

[Remote]

Literally none of the players you named are outplaying their career baselines(lindor had one outlier year...his first as a met)...and canha is a platoon player right now...which speaks to depth.
mcneil is a career 300 hitter, and marte is a career 290 hitter.
braves approach to hitting is to badger bad pitching and outslug teams, but in high leverage situations striking out all the god damn time and walking very little hinders producing runs against good pitching
you naming rookies and guys relatively unproven in high leverage games. strange shyt.
braves at least have a pen they can trust beyond their closer. getting the game to edwin diaz is the adventure...even if edwin is dominant. had to trot him out there for 6 outs, and to finish a game where the mets had a 6 run lead going into the 9th.
mets lose no sleep over morton or wright....(which is the real outlier if you look up his career to this point)
strider has cy young stuff though

I didn’t bother addressing this because frankly you’re using terrible metrics of understanding baseball.

 

[mvp_status]

Mets gone find a way to blow a good season like always. I aint worried bout that shytty franchise. Have the highest payroll every year and dont win shyt brehs

So basically you been in a coma for the last decade, understood.

Makes sense why you posting pictures from 20 years ago trying to prove a point

 

[Trust Me]

McNeil being an all-star doesn't particularly matter. He's overperformed his expected woba by like 40 points. He's more lucky than good.
Lindor has been better than I expected this season, and I suppose I can give you that. The RBIs are irrelevant though.
Marte is pretty much a slap hitter who doesn't hit the ball very hard and maybe an average fielder at best.
Canha is an awful defender and he's got an expected woba of just .306. His saving grace is that he's got fantastic plate discipline. You can bookmark this post if you want but I'd bet almost anything that Canha, Marte and Lindor are all worse next season if they don't regress come September/October.

deGrom and Scherzer are legit fantastic.
Bassitt is pretty good.
Carrasco is overrated.
Walker is overrated. In fact, Walker is the most overrated pitcher on the staff by far. An 18% K-rate? It's a miracle his ERA isn't 4.50 by now.

I mean.. you could've just said 'I dont watch many Mets games, so I cant really comment' instead of typing all this. You've literally been wrong about the Mets in the majority of the stuff you've written in this thread. And I'd be the first to shyt on my Mets WITH you, if it were true.

You call Marte a slap hitter.. why? Because he's got two flare hits to right in this series? Does that make Pete a slap hitter too? Because he's done the same. Outside of an uptick in RBI's (but you said they dont matter), McNeil is having a typical McNeil year, since he's been in the league. How has he over performed? And we already agreed that Canha's struggling, and that's why he's platooning now. We'll need that plate discipline in the playoffs if we're lucky enough to make it.

How is Cookie overrated? He's out #3. You'd kill to have him as your #3 in the Bronx. I just looked at his career stats.. explain to me how he's overrated. Here, I'll even link it for you..

Carlos Carrasco Career Stats - MLB - ESPN

Complete career MLB stats for the Cleveland Guardians Starting Pitcher Carlos Carrasco on ESPN. Includes games played, hits and home runs per MLB season.

www.espn.com

Walker got lit up last game, but how is he overrated too? For a #5 starter? I'll link that too.

Taijuan Walker Career Stats - MLB - ESPN

Complete career MLB stats for the Philadelphia Phillies Starting Pitcher Taijuan Walker on ESPN. Includes games played, hits and home runs per MLB season.

www.espn.com

I mean.. like I said.. you could've just said 'I dont watch many Mets games, so I cant really comment'

 

[Derek Lee]

96 mph slider
If ya smell what deGrom is cooking

 

[Spidey Man]

96 mph slider
If ya smell what deGrom is cooking

Pardon the haters, it's just his billi behavior. If they don't say he's the GOAT, that's just silly behavior

 

[ineedsleep212]

Mets taking advantage of the umpires' inability to make the correct calls lol

 

[ineedsleep212]

They just don't want to make the correct but unpopular call that it's the umps fault and they should be gifting us 2nd.

 

[Trust Me]

Braves fans literally ghosted this thread, huh?

 

[ineedsleep212]

Umps strike zone all over the place

 

[ineedsleep212]

Yo how did the ump not give him that call lol