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Mets gone find a way to blow a good season like always. I aint worried bout that shytty franchise. Have the highest payroll every year and dont win shyt brehs

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Including today, the Braves have 8 more games against the Mets this season.
The Mets currently have a 5.5 game lead.

I think the Braves catch them.
Scherzer and deGrom are better than anything the Braves can run out there. But the Braves are deeper and have the better lineup.
 

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Including today, the Braves have 8 more games against the Mets this season.
The Mets currently have a 5.5 game lead.

I think the Braves catch them.
Scherzer and deGrom are better than anything the Braves can run out there. But the Braves are deeper and have the better lineup.
:mjtf: In what world are they deeper, and have a better lineup?
 

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:mjtf: In what world are they deeper, and have a better lineup?
The Mets offense relies almost entirely on Pete Alonso. The rest of the roster consists of players who have largely over-performed (Lindor, McNeil and Marte and Canha).

In contrast the Braves are far more balanced with Riley doing the heavy lifting but strong supporting play from Contreras, Swanson, Acuna and Olson. Not to mention that Michael Harris has been a tremendous boost -- though to be fair, he's the most likely to go cold.

If Scherzer gets beat in a short series (possible given how he's prone to giving up hits now and then), it put's tremendous pressure on deGrom and the Mets bullpen. While Atlanta has an advantage with Strider, Wright and Morton. And frankly, the way Strider is pitching, I could make the argument he's as good as Scherzer/deGrom.

I'll give the Mets the bullpen advantage considering how dominant Edwin Diaz has been.
But it's not like Atlanta's bullpen is far behind -- and they just got Raisel Iglesias at the trade deadline who is also very good.
 

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The Mets offense relies almost entirely on Pete Alonso. The rest of the roster consists of players who have largely over-performed (Lindor, McNeil and Marte and Canha).

In contrast the Braves are far more balanced with Riley doing the heavy lifting but strong supporting play from Contreras, Swanson, Acuna and Olson. Not to mention that Michael Harris has been a tremendous boost -- though to be fair, he's the most likely to go cold.

If Scherzer gets beat in a short series (possible given how he's prone to giving up hits now and then), it put's tremendous pressure on deGrom and the Mets bullpen. While Atlanta has an advantage with Strider, Wright and Morton. And frankly, the way Strider is pitching, I could make the argument he's as good as Scherzer/deGrom.

I'll give the Mets the bullpen advantage considering how dominant Edwin Diaz has been.
But it's not like Atlanta's bullpen is far behind -- and they just got Raisel Iglesias at the trade deadline who is also very good.
Fam, there's so much wrong with this post.

'almost entirely on Pete Alonso' ??

- McNeil's a 2 time all star (including this year)
- Lindor's a top 5 (top 7 at worst) shortstop in the game, and is 4th in RBI's.
- Marte's a career .293 hitter and isn't doing anything out of the ordinary this year, that he hasn't done in the past.
- Canha's batting .270'ish, and struggling bad.. so I'm not sure where the over performing is?

And let me get this straight.. Atlanta has the advantage at starter? You're telling me you'd take a healthy rotation of

Fried, Morton, Strider, Wright and Anderson

over

deGrom, Scherzer, Carrasco, Bassitt and Walker?

:gucci:

We've handled Fried, Morton, Strider (couldn't get out of the 4th), Wright, (and now ) Odorizzi pretty handily this year.

Anderson's been average against us.

I'm trying to see where you're coming from here.. but I just cant see it. It just seems like this Braves team doesn't match up well with this Mets team. :manny:
 

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The Mets offense relies almost entirely on Pete Alonso. The rest of the roster consists of players who have largely over-performed (Lindor, McNeil and Marte and Canha).

In contrast the Braves are far more balanced with Riley doing the heavy lifting but strong supporting play from Contreras, Swanson, Acuna and Olson. Not to mention that Michael Harris has been a tremendous boost -- though to be fair, he's the most likely to go cold.

If Scherzer gets beat in a short series (possible given how he's prone to giving up hits now and then), it put's tremendous pressure on deGrom and the Mets bullpen. While Atlanta has an advantage with Strider, Wright and Morton. And frankly, the way Strider is pitching, I could make the argument he's as good as Scherzer/deGrom.

I'll give the Mets the bullpen advantage considering how dominant Edwin Diaz has been.
But it's not like Atlanta's bullpen is far behind -- and they just got Raisel Iglesias at the trade deadline who is also very good.
Literally none of the players you named are outplaying their career baselines(lindor had one outlier year...his first as a met)...and canha is a platoon player right now...which speaks to depth.
mcneil is a career 300 hitter, and marte is a career 290 hitter.
braves approach to hitting is to badger bad pitching and outslug teams, but in high leverage situations striking out all the god damn time and walking very little hinders producing runs against good pitching
you naming rookies and guys relatively unproven in high leverage games. strange shyt.
braves at least have a pen they can trust beyond their closer. getting the game to edwin diaz is the adventure...even if edwin is dominant. had to trot him out there for 6 outs, and to finish a game where the mets had a 6 run lead going into the 9th.
mets lose no sleep over morton or wright....(which is the real outlier if you look up his career to this point)
strider has cy young stuff though
 

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Fam, there's so much wrong with this post.

'almost entirely on Pete Alonso' ??

- McNeil's a 2 time all star (including this year)
- Lindor's a top 5 (top 7 at worst) shortstop in the game, and is 4th in RBI's.
- Marte's a career .293 hitter and isn't doing anything out of the ordinary this year, that he hasn't done in the past.
- Canha's batting .270'ish, and struggling bad.. so I'm not sure where the over performing is?

And let me get this straight.. Atlanta has the advantage at starter? You're telling me you'd take a healthy rotation of

Fried, Morton, Strider, Wright and Anderson

over

deGrom, Scherzer, Carrasco, Bassitt and Walker?

:gucci:

We've handled Fried, Morton, Strider (couldn't get out of the 4th), Wright, (and now ) Odorizzi pretty handily this year.

Anderson's been average against us.

I'm trying to see where you're coming from here.. but I just cant see it. It just seems like this Braves team doesn't match up well with this Mets team. :manny:
McNeil being an all-star doesn't particularly matter. He's overperformed his expected woba by like 40 points. He's more lucky than good.
Lindor has been better than I expected this season, and I suppose I can give you that. The RBIs are irrelevant though.
Marte is pretty much a slap hitter who doesn't hit the ball very hard and maybe an average fielder at best.
Canha is an awful defender and he's got an expected woba of just .306. His saving grace is that he's got fantastic plate discipline. You can bookmark this post if you want but I'd bet almost anything that Canha, Marte and Lindor are all worse next season if they don't regress come September/October.

deGrom and Scherzer are legit fantastic.
Bassitt is pretty good.
Carrasco is overrated.
Walker is overrated. In fact, Walker is the most overrated pitcher on the staff by far. An 18% K-rate? It's a miracle his ERA isn't 4.50 by now.
 

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Including today, the Braves have 8 more games against the Mets this season.
The Mets currently have a 5.5 game lead.

I think the Braves catch them.
Scherzer and deGrom are better than anything the Braves can run out there. But the Braves are deeper and have the better lineup.
Why are the Braves 4-7 against the Mets?
The last 2 months the Braves have like q0 more away games than home. While for the Mets it is vice versa and the Braves are only like 4 games over .500 on the road while 15 @ home. There's no Stat trending in the Braves favor to win the division right now.
 
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