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This L.A. startup is using cargo e-bikes to solve urban traffic


The Urb-E electric folding bicycle is on display.

Urb-E made compact electric scooters and bicycles for consumers before shifting its focus to cargo bikes capable of high-volume deliveries.
(Frederic J. Brown / AFP/Getty Images)


BY BLAKE SCHMIDT
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MAY 30, 2022 9:05 AM PT


On city streets, on most days, Amazon delivery vans, UPS trucks, Ubers and vehicles for instant delivery services all vie for space. A Los Angeles-based company is aiming to solve the problem of urban congestion and the emissions that come with it by swapping out the delivery trucks with cargo e-bikes.

Urb-E is carving out a high-density niche in the market for electric commercial vehicles, which market intelligence advisory firm Guidehouse Insights says is expected to hit $370 billion by 2030. The company wants to build an ecosystem around cargo e-bikes, aiming to expand from 50 to 500 of them by next year.

“Cargo e-bikes let delivery workers avoid car traffic congestion, reduce pollution and are safer vehicles on our streets than trucks,” says Sarah Kaufman, associate director of Rudin Center for Transportation Policy and Management at New York University. “Cities all over the world are starting to reshape themselves for smaller-form vehicles and more human-powered transportation; cargo e-bikes fit perfectly into this vision.”

Urb-E, which started out as a company that made mini e-scooters, is pivoting to monetize the demand from companies that need their own low-emissions delivery systems. Urb-E makes its own workhorse e-bikes in China, which are geared to haul large loads (800 pounds) at low speeds and fit into a parking space with 20 folded containers. The bikes feature a double-wheel and brake system like those used in aircraft. A hitch and suspension allow for more stability on fraying road infrastructure in their first locations of New York and Los Angeles.

Urb-E provides the vehicles, but not the drivers. The startup trains clients on how to put their own drivers on the e-bikes and offers an e-bike valet service to help manage charging. It’s an experiment, but one thing is for certain: This isn’t another delivery company bringing you lunch. It wants the bigger market of high-volume cargo for companies. Containerized boxes make it easier to move cargo off of trucks coming into the cities and onto trailers for e-bike delivery, Chief Executive Charles Jolley said.

“We’re really specifically not focused on ‘get me a burrito, a coffee, a toothbrush in 15 minutes,’” Jolley said. “We’re trying to replace trucks and vans with something that’s 90% less energy.”


The company’s clients have varied from UPS to Square Roots, which had been delivering its produce grown in the company’s vertical farm in Brooklyn by rigging a trailer to consumer e-bikes and loading it up with veggies. One Urb-E co-founder described that as “like trying to use a Prius to do the work of a tractor.”

UPS used Urb-E bikes in a trial as part of its expanding “last mile” logistics solutions that involve more than 30 projects, and the company continues to look for urban logistic solutions as part of its bid for carbon neutrality by 2050, said Luke Wake, UPS vice president of fleet maintenance and engineering.

Square Roots, which is backed by Kimbal Musk, the brother of Elon Musk, said the new partnership helps guarantee fresh food is available year-round, which wasn’t necessarily the case amid pandemic-era supply chain disruptions. Urb-E’s containerized system has the capacity for insulated cold storage bags to protect fresh produce. The bikes can be used for about 100 local grocery stores in the New York area, which are within five miles of the group’s farm. A recent Instagram post crunched the numbers: 30 pounds of carbon saved on 25 miles per week.

Urb-E was started in 2012 with ambitions of making the world’s most compact e-vehicle at the time. The co-founders came up with a foldable mini e-scooter with a range of 20 miles and a top speed of 15 miles per hour, which had some success in places such as the campus of co-founder Peter Lee’s alma mater, USC.

The company had created a new vehicle for micromobility, but scaling up required entering a crowded race with deep-pocketed competitors including Lime and Bird.

“Our choices were to die, or to take all these learnings we had identified and pivot,” Lee said.


Urb-E’s co-founders had noticed that the cargo wagons they had started supplying to a local fire department along with the scooters were in high demand, and even UPS was putting in requests for them. Lee and his team took a step back — what if they started designing not just scooters but a whole electrified ecosystem for deliveries that could replace urban trucks, down to the logistical hubs, mechanic shops and fueling stations? They could lean on co-founder Sven Etzelsberger’s design expertise, from years leading Porsche’s team, to make a fleet of e-bikes for heavy loads, compact bike trailers for containerized cargo and the charger hubs to power them.

Delivery is just one niche in the blossoming e-cargo bike market, which varies from rigs for families and commuters to delivery programs by UPS, which developed with Rytle its own custom-made fleet of cargo e-bikes in Europe. Matt Roorda, an expert on urban freight at the University of Toronto, plans to study that city’s newly approved pilot program for large e-cargo bikes, including the potential for freeing up city parking. He says the introduction of the bikes could bring new challenges: handling safety in busier bike lanes and determining where to put new charging hubs. A bill in the New York state Legislature to allow for wider cargo e-bikes is a start to addressing the issue, NYU’s Kaufman said.

Former New York Mayor Bill de Blasio began a pilot program for cargo e-bikes in 2019, which included freight companies Amazon, DHL and UPS. Urb-E’s swerve toward cargo started rolling out last year. The startup’s transformation caught the eye of Jerry Yang, the Alibaba board member who co-founded Yahoo. Yang, a user of Urb-E’s mini-scooters, had come on as an early investor through his AME Cloud Ventures and invested again, drawn by the company’s ambition of creating a compact container delivery network to replace trucks and small electric vehicles. Urb-E also counts UBS and Acadia Woods as backers.

Cars and trucks weren’t cutting it as a solution amid rapid urbanization, said Yang, whose bet on Alibaba in 2005 brought one of the biggest payoffs for Silicon Valley investors in China. Cargo e-bikes, like drones and autonomous robots, probably are the future for cities, where the problem of last-mile delivery is the hardest part of the supply chain to solve at scale, Yang said by email.

“Every e-commerce company today is wrestling with how to meet the huge increase in demand while also trying to meet CO2 targets their customers and investors are asking for,” Yang said. “There will always be some deliveries that need a truck or van, but over time a very large percentage of deliveries can be converted to new vehicles built specifically for the size and scale of modern cities.”
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Coli Gang what is a good entry point for someone looking to get a real bike for the first time

I want some fly shyt my nikka

My current bike is a Walmart $99 basic ass bike 🤣 maybe 7-8 yrs old

My normal cardio is I run a lil 5k then I hop on the bike for a cool down ride between 5-7 miles

I run directly out from my garage and the when I return from the run I grab the bike and leave back out so I never transport the bike in my car to a trail/track or anything like that

On my bike my avg speed is between 16-18 mph and the fastest I am capable of riding is about 21mph and I can't maintain that for long because it's all the bike can handle

This my lil hoe....she in bad shape but she ride like a dream 🤣



I really like this frame/style but I'm just looking for the real deal a bike that will last with proper care maintenance

Any feedback is welcome

Check out bikesdirect.com. The prices you see include taxes and shipping and arrive very fast.
 

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Climate change office has $400 to $1,200 vouchers to make car replacement a reality for bike fans, and thousands are signing up.

Michael Booth
4:08 AM MDT on May 13, 2022
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FattE-Bikes’ models, ranging around 45 miles, can accelerate to 25 miles per hour. The Denver-based company has designed and built compact, hybrid and cargo bikes since 2017. (Olivia Sun, The Colorado Sun via Report for America)
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Lucrative discount voucher in hand, Emily Kleinfelter is ready to roll into formation in the battle against global warming.

Now she just needs the friendly folks at FattE-Bikes shop to finish putting her ride together.

Kleinfelter is among the thousands of Denver residents who accelerated online to land an electric bike rebate from Denver’s Office of Climate Action, Sustainability and Resiliency, part of a $9 million round of subsidies announced on Earth Day. The grant and rebate programs are financed by a sales tax approved by city voters in 2020 estimated to raise more than $40 million a year for climate action.


TODAY’S UNDERWRITER​


The climate office reported Thursday it had maxed out e-bike applications at 3,250, and the rebates will pause until Denver allocates more money periodically throughout the year. More than half the applicants sought the $400 e-bike rebates that don’t depend on income, and about 40% applied for rebates that go up to $1,200 for income-qualified candidates. Those buying e-cargo bikes, set up to carry kids to school or deliveries or equipment for work, can get an additional $500.

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Funded by a sales tax for climate action, Denver’s Office of Climate Action, Sustainability and Resiliency offers electric bike rebates depending on income. The climate office reported Thursday that e-bike applications were maxed-out at 3,250. (Olivia Sun, The Colorado Sun via Report for America)
“It was not a cheap purchase. That’s still something I want to acknowledge,” said Kleinfelter, who is getting a cargo bike. “But I recognize that it’s an investment, and it’s also a replacement for a car for me.”

E-bikes use a battery pack and motor to make pedaling easier or extend coasting, with variable settings that can set the bikes cruising from 15 to 30 miles per hour. They can help take hundreds of pounds of cargo across town and up hills, and advocates say they make commuting safer by allowing bikers to surge at green lights and avoid accidents.

The $400 Denver rebate, and an extra $100 knocked off by the Sun Valley neighborhood’s FattE-Bikes to boost the program, put the $2,000 to $3,000 cost of a high-end e-bike in Kleinfelter’s range.

“I have been looking to get one for a while. But I felt like it wasn’t exactly the most feasible thing when it came down to money,” said Kleinfelter, who used to have access to a cargo e-bike for work and has ordered a similar, workhorse model. “And so with the rebate program becoming an option, I felt like it was too good to pass up on.”

The Denver office says it still has funds for rebates, and is processing vouchers as quickly as possible. The rebates are “instant,” so once a resident qualifies and takes the voucher with them, participating retailers take the amount off at the register.

“This thing got slammed with a lot of applications from Earth Day until now,” said Denver climate office spokeswoman Winna MacLaren.

State legislators passed a bill late in the session that includes funds for statewide e-bike rebates, welcome news to commuters jealous of the Denver plan. “I feel like I’m holding my breath for the state-level rebate to come to fruition. Like I want to already know what model I want,” one rider said, after mentioning the rebates on social media.

The current round of $9 million also provides up to 100% rebates for electrifying homes, with the subsidies making it cheaper to replace appliances that run on natural gas. The goal for local and state leaders is to move energy needs toward electricity that is increasingly generated by clean sources such as solar or wind power. Homeowners can use Denver and Xcel rebates to sharply lower the cost of electric heat pump alternatives to furnaces and water heaters, battery storage systems for solar panels, wiring for fast electric vehicle chargers, and the solar panels themselves.


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FattE-Bikes’ models, ranging around 45 miles, can accelerate to 25 miles per hour. (Olivia Sun, The Colorado Sun via Report for America)
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The Denver-based company has designed and built compact, hybrid, and cargo bikes since 2017.
Those subsidies are for existing homes and must be handled through an approved contractor, with a list provided by the city.

Denver’s happy to see interest in the rebates from a wide variety of residents, MacLaren said. For e-bikes, the goal is to replace car trips powered by dirtier gas with clean electric-powered bike trips, so all purchases help with that, she said. But providing equitable opportunity to communities already adversely impacted by pollution and climate change is also built into all climate office grants.

“We really do want to have a program that is open to all of Denver. We also want to make sure that those that are going to be cost burdened by this have the option to cover those costs,” she said.

Bike stores, of course, are thrilled. FattE-Bikes assembles its custom models at its Sun Valley shop, saying it is the only bike company to build theirs in the U.S., co-founder Kenny Fischer said.

The rebates have dropped the average age of the customer by 25 to 30 years, Fischer said. E-bikes were already popular with baby boomers and other older riders who like the electric power assist and have the disposable income to upgrade their rides.

“But we’re in this for impact, getting cars off the road, and the rebate has proven there’s demand among younger riders,” he said. So far, Fischer said, Denver’s rebate system has proved “user-friendly.”

The program will advertise itself, he added. “More people are going to see them, and more people are going to want them,” Fischer said.




So this might be old man or square thinking...but do you guys think it's a good idea to register your bike with the local police department?
Apparently it's good in case it gets stolen. I've heard that certain cities or states have an online registry that can help, too.


Or is that a waste of time? I don't plan on leaving my bike anywhere but you never know.

I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING.

I registered mines. Takes like 5 minutes and is completely online. :yeshrug:

If the bike gets stolen, I think I read there's like a ~2% chance that it's recovered, so I wouldn't hold my breath, but my uneducated guess is that probably +80% of recovered bikes are registered in the system.

I already have bikes but I'd love some sort of voucher for not using my car.

As far as registering your bike. Make sure you go online and fill out any warranty/ register with your name and the serial number, register for any store warranty, keep your receipts, take a picture of your bike and serial number, take a pic with you on your bike at your house....all of that and register with your city if you can. If it gets stolen make a police report asap, they'll want the serial.

Most pawn places won't take a bike with a filed off serial number and the way pawn places work with a lot of police departments is the serial code so if someone tries to pawn anything with a serial code that is reported stolen they'll calmly go in the back and call 911 and say "someone here is trying to pawn stolen goods."

Also no matter what city you're in you should have some sort of forum or Facebook group, if you post and say "My bike was stolen" and upload the pics of your bike....people will actually keep an eye out and check Facebook market, Craigslist, etc. Plenty of bikes have been recovered this way even in other states. It was kind of a thing where for a minute people would record and confront the thieves like "hey, nice bike, where'd you buy it?" Or pretend to be interested in buying while the police or occasionally the owner was enroute. Still a bunch of those videos online.
 

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First ride today.
A few notes:

10.25 miles

I had to walk some parts on the way back home. I live in a town with a lot of hills and I’m not fit enough to make some of those climbs.

When I picked up my bike I didn’t do a good job of checking the saddle height. I was so excited to get it home that I didn’t take a practice spin around the parking lot. Well the seat was too low and I felt it on this ride. Pedaling felt cramped but I’ll fix that tomorrow.

It wasn’t even that hot and my hands started sweating a bit. Gloves aren’t for people trying to be fancy. That shyt helps. I might buy some.

Strava does a shytty job of tracking calories burned. It was off by 200 compared to my Garmin watch.

Good ride though. Looking forward to many more.
 

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@Wildin @Stir Fry

Shout out the gang. Waiting on the E-Bike now. Gas jumped another 25 cents overnight (not bullshytting) and I take too many little trips to be pulling the car out all the time.

Good move. If I was in any type of biking distance to my job, I would absolutely do so. Gas just hit $7 out here today, I got a daily $7 bridge toll, and I drive a v8 :(
 

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Good move. If I was in any type of biking distance to my job, I would absolutely do so. Gas just hit $7 out here today, I got a daily $7 bridge toll, and I drive a v8 :(
Yea man, I can see gas being 7 in a months time. Sure I can afford it but food also crept up. At this rate, my car is an expensive anchor (190 monthly for parking, 200+ for insurance, AND the monthly payment). The goal was always to make it a "when I need it" vehicle and now is as good a time as any. I even see the little Vespa type scooters for a stack but the bike won out.
 

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First ride today.
A few notes:

10.25 miles

I had to walk some parts on the way back home. I live in a town with a lot of hills and I’m not fit enough to make some of those climbs.

When I picked up my bike I didn’t do a good job of checking the saddle height. I was so excited to get it home that I didn’t take a practice spin around the parking lot. Well the seat was too low and I felt it on this ride. Pedaling felt cramped but I’ll fix that tomorrow.

It wasn’t even that hot and my hands started sweating a bit. Gloves aren’t for people trying to be fancy. That shyt helps. I might buy some.

Strava does a shytty job of tracking calories burned. It was off by 200 compared to my Garmin watch.

Good ride though. Looking forward to many more.
Does your seat have quick release? If so you could've adjusted it during the ride. If you don't already, get you a bike tool and always keep it on you.

Riding to work, my pannier rack loosened up and was rubbing against my tire, then one of the legs was rubbing slightly against my chain. Those bolts come loose after every some odd miles, they just need to be tightened, luckily I had my tool.
@Wildin @Stir Fry

Shout out the gang. Waiting on the E-Bike now. Gas jumped another 25 cents overnight (not bullshytting) and I take too many little trips to be pulling the car out all the time.
You get the Hurley?
Good move. If I was in any type of biking distance to my job, I would absolutely do so. Gas just hit $7 out here today, I got a daily $7 bridge toll, and I drive a v8 :(

fukk, there's no relief in sight but it is what it is.
 

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Is it possible to sticky this thread? If not, what would be needed to get a sticky? I feel like there’s a good group of members interested in cycling. The film forum be having like 13 threads stickied.
 
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