@ people telling him they thought he was the villain at first 
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@ people telling him they thought he was the villain at first 
Un-AmericanDreamer
Simp City
I'm ok with Coates Black Panther. His T'challa feels OOC but at the same time, isn't that the point? I mean, it's his version of the character. He's not suppose to be just like Hudlin's or Priest's. He gets props for taking it in a different direction rather than rehashing what we've seen before.
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Indeed. The reality is my overall opinion of the book (and the opinion of several others) are in the minority. This book has been getting a lot of love from critics and readers.
The GOT comparisons make a lot of sense, hence me deciding to fall back and let the chips fall where they may. This is a different BP book than I am used to.
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Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
I swear, some things won't change lol.
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Funny enough, the Hudlin run was initially shytted on by a lot people, with a lot of people saying that T'Challa (and others) was ooc, the writing was wack, and so on. Ask anyone who was in CBR before it got rebooted. The BP threads were a constant war zone. The complaints didn't stop at CBR either, it was all over the net. It's not until recently that the general readership has given it a more positive outlook.
We are five issues into a possible 60 issues, if Coates has it his way. Opinions of this run can change as time goes on.
I love sketches on toned paper.
I don't think he will be that bad but he definitely will be a weak link.He's gonna ruin this film b and keep it locked at a 6.5.
Will be what Eisenberg was to Batman vs Superman
I see the GOT comparisons. But for me GOT actually reads like your everyday fantasy novel. The only thing that truly separates it is the vast amount of characters.
My only concern is how many of these positive reviewers are regular comicbook readers or BP fans...and not just newcomers that are enjoying their first take of it because it's Coates. It's not catching me, but I will go back and re-read it in one-sitting to see if it improved. I trust CBR (not really into it as much since the reboot) because these are some passionate fans, that know their stuff. When they had more individual rooms, the die-hards were in there...bring up ish that happen 20 years ago. My problem with his BP characterization is that no matter what, the stakes, the costs, end-results, BP is always sure of himself and his decision. Coates BP doesn't seem to have that (yet), and it is the one trait that you at least want to remain constant. I will say this...with Coates all-new BP and the attention it's been getting, now is really the time to beef up his rogues gallery. He may be focusing on the wrong things in this main book.
I really don't feel like going through my longboxes for old BPs, but I'll get to them. I'm stoill excited though. it's getting more people into comics for a change.
I actually agree with the die hards in the CBR forum in regards to Coates handling of T'Challa. 
However, my issue with the CBR folks is that it's the same 5 die-hards arguing ad nauseam against the same 5 apologists who are never going to agree but yet everyone will still re-hash the same arguments and counter-arguments and long-winded dissertations over the same topics to the same people who -again- are never going to agree... and they do this literally every. single. fukking. day.
I'm passionate about the character, not about having a pissing contest with the same 5 ppl over the same 'philosophical differences' and all the nitbytchpicking and lowkey trolljobs to bait u into more senseless arguments. Reminds me of the '03-'12 sohh era of Kobe vs Jordan/Shaq/Wade/Lebron/Everybody type toxicity, that eventually just becomes flat boring to read through.
However, my issue with the CBR folks is that it's the same 5 die-hards arguing ad nauseam against the same 5 apologists who are never going to agree but yet everyone will still re-hash the same arguments and counter-arguments and long-winded dissertations over the same topics to the same people who -again- are never going to agree... and they do this literally every. single. fukking. day.
I'm passionate about the character, not about having a pissing contest with the same 5 ppl over the same 'philosophical differences' and all the nitbytchpicking and lowkey trolljobs to bait u into more senseless arguments. Reminds me of the '03-'12 sohh era of Kobe vs Jordan/Shaq/Wade/Lebron/Everybody type toxicity, that eventually just becomes flat boring to read through.
i wasnt on any comic site then, but i shyt on the hudlin stuff hard on the sites i frequented . i honestly think as a run its still seen unfavorably
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#Knickstape
First African character in comics aopears for the first time in the movies but of course THEY'D think he was a villain
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
I can't say with certainty, but it appears that the majority of positive reviews are from comic book readers in general and newcomers via Coates. That said, there def are BP fans who do like the story as well.
EDIT: To clarify, there's nothing wrong with newcomers liking the book. A strong contingent of BP fans today came either during Priest or Hudlin, and neither books were the first "big" BP run (story wise) out there, as there was the McGregor run before it. We all were "newcomers" at some point. Just because we've arrived to the BP-verse earlier than others doesn't necessarily mean our opinions hold more "weight," imho.
I hope I'm making sense here, not sure if I phrased my shyt right, lol.
FWIW, he already added a villain in Tetu. We'll see how effective of a villain he'll be.
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Concerning VIolence
Decolonizer
The truth is that none of the last 3 major runs were initially met with acclaim.
Priest didn't sell much in his run.
Everyone thought Hudlin's BP was too black.
And now we're hearing criticism for Coates from the diehards over a mere 5 issues or so because T'challa is not at the top of his game fast enough. And Coates has possible dozens and dozens of issues left to go under his run so far to define a new iteration for T'challa.
The way the CAC and Tetu and Stane conversed with each other at the end seemed they all knew each BEFORE the meeting could even occur. I'm still thinking it's an inside job of some sort from T'challa's side. It's way too convenient that the CAC was promised payment for the intel and everything. That meeting looked too classified. Idk.
Shuri.Stelfreeze the gawd at it again. Cover for BP #8.
Definitely copping this. Alot of the variants have been amazing. This might be Stelfreeze's dopest.
i like that Coates is very direct with melding multiple African influences into his vision of BP.
Because Wakanda is a fictional country, the "Africaness" of the Black Panther world often boils down to this usual and general vagueness and undefined monolith of Africa that we can't really expand upon.
Coates appears very keen with his cultural/historical/literary research and how that informs the backdrop for BP's cultural and narrative context.
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