Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

Adeptus Astartes

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Partison politics has become so toxic that people don't even hold the side they perceive to be their side accountable anymore. Donald Trump is easily the worst president in my lifetime yet the republican party is satisfied with him overall. Brazen corruption and no real desire to do the actual job and they just look and go yeah more of that.

The electoral college is so broken that under 50,000 voters could have overwritten the will of over 7 million voters. America made it through this time but Trump laid the blueprint and next time we probably won't be so lucky. If Trump was even half way competent it would have been the end of democracy in the US.
Conservatives have always had contempt for democracy. It's why they have stood against every effort to expand it, from the repeal of poll taxes and tests, to women's suffrage and abolition of race based voting.

That's why you're seeing conservatives eschewing the constitution in favor of loyalty to one man, and openly advocating for secession, sedition, insurrection, and martial law.

"If conservatives feel they cannot win democratically, they will not moderate conservatism, they will reject democracy " - David Frum
 

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When I look at the ugly aftermath of the Ohio election in 2020 - the one thing that stands out and that touches on what brehs saying upthread - the few counties that either held or swung toward Biden are where?

In the most educated, most prosperous, most increasingly diverse areas. The ones that make the big majority of our GDP.

But we can't outvote the rest of the deep red wannabe Stars and Bars cletuses here. It's been that way for a long time, but now it's worse than ever. :scust:

You can't fix stupid, and eventually if you can't avoid it, stupid kills you. You have to decide if you want a WV or a MS and a nation pretending to be 1st World but run like 3rd - or a VA where the balance of lifestyles and people wanting to have their say move the needle more toward something livable. The Sedition Party loves getting fat and rich off ignorance and they're gonna push that harder than ever.
 

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How do these people obtain these positions?

Gohmert is a perfect picture of the district he represents. That's how. You tell em what they wanna hear, bring home some pork, and you get to have a cushy government job for life while telling em how evil tha gubmint is.

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Conservatives have always had contempt for democracy. It's why they have stood against every effort to expand it, from the repeal of poll taxes and tests, to women's suffrage and abolition of race based voting.

That's why you're seeing conservatives eschewing the constitution in favor of loyalty to one man, and openly advocating for secession, sedition, insurrection, and martial law.

"If conservatives feel they cannot win democratically, they will not moderate conservatism, they will reject democracy " - David Frum
It's like a sports team to them though. There's no morality or principles to it simply the side they cheer for and the rival they hate. The policies these politicians enact impact all our lives. These fools need to start paying attention to what's getting done instead of blindly cheering for a side.
 

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It's like a sports team to them though. There's no morality or principles to it simply the side they cheer for and the rival they hate. The policies these politicians enact impact all our lives. These fools need to start paying attention to what's getting done instead of blindly cheering for a side.
It's a huge moral thing for them. They believe their side is the side of God, and God can't be wrong. They love the policies of the GOP. They love them because they hurt the people they don't like. It's not about the country, it's about visiting cruelty on the "other" and enforcing their reactionary social agenda.
 

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When I look at the ugly aftermath of the Ohio election in 2020 - the one thing that stands out and that touches on what brehs saying upthread - the few counties that either held or swung toward Biden are where?

In the most educated, most prosperous, most increasingly diverse areas. The ones that make the big majority of our GDP.

But we can't outvote the rest of the deep red wannabe Stars and Bars cletuses here. It's been that way for a long time, but now it's worse than ever. :scust:

You can't fix stupid, and eventually if you can't avoid it, stupid kills you. You have to decide if you want a WV or a MS and a nation pretending to be 1st World but run like 3rd - or a VA where the balance of lifestyles and people wanting to have their say move the needle more toward something livable. The Sedition Party loves getting fat and rich off ignorance and they're gonna push that harder than ever.
As long as most white people vote based on cultural grievances nothing will substantially change in this country. Even worse, some non-white people also vote based on cultural grievances too (especially certain Latinos like Cubans & Venezuelans).
 

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When I look at the ugly aftermath of the Ohio election in 2020 - the one thing that stands out and that touches on what brehs saying upthread - the few counties that either held or swung toward Biden are where?

In the most educated, most prosperous, most increasingly diverse areas. The ones that make the big majority of our GDP.

But we can't outvote the rest of the deep red wannabe Stars and Bars cletuses here. It's been that way for a long time, but now it's worse than ever. :scust:

You can't fix stupid, and eventually if you can't avoid it, stupid kills you. You have to decide if you want a WV or a MS and a nation pretending to be 1st World but run like 3rd - or a VA where the balance of lifestyles and people wanting to have their say move the needle more toward something livable. The Sedition Party loves getting fat and rich off ignorance and they're gonna push that harder than ever.

After a certain point, a 2nd Civil War gonna pop off and you may be forced to kill those people :francis:
 

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It's a huge moral thing for them. They believe their side is the side of God, and God can't be wrong. They love the policies of the GOP. They love them because they hurt the people they don't like. It's not about the country, it's about visiting cruelty on the "other" and enforcing their reactionary social agenda.
God and Trump are opposites unless God suddenly decided to tell his servants to cheat on their wives with pornstars then pay them off and lie about it.
 
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