Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

[Dusty Bake Activate]

"White majoritarian"

It’s probably a wrap for Ben Shapiro. He’s been trying to reach for anything to clout-chase this year. Making videos threatening to kill Beto O’Rourke over gun control, Elliott whoever’s pronouns and that embarrassing WAP take. Without the MAGA base, he’s done.

 

[eastside313]

The same could be said of Trump in 2016 who lost by even smaller margins, but you are using that as proof-positive as some type of massive voter swing.

Do you disagree with racial backlash against Obama from white voters as being real or are you still on the economic anxiety angle?



you're not even comparing like for like data. But it seems you're intent on blaming black voters for Clinton losing, despite Biden winning while doing worse among black voters than both Obama and Clinton.

Still, this is all just subversion from what it means to hold Biden accountable.

And that starts with what he was elected on and what people expect him to follow through on? Seems fair, at least with Obama you can point to the lack of a Public Option in Obamacare, it's horrible rollout, and military adventurism dissuading voters as possible reasons despite him still mainlining the high favorability among black and dem voters that propelled him to two elections.

So again, what does holding JOE BIDEN accountable look like? you like to write a lot so this shouldn't be a large ask.

More like blame the Democratic Party for saying damn black people we ain’t gotta pay them no attention they gonna vote for Hilary like they voted for Obama because we said so.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

If only that one crazy cac had aimed a little higher.

I hoped he died when he got shot. Don’t regret thinking that.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Pelosi can blackball Republicans who backed Trump’s election plot from serving in Congress: report – Raw Story

Progressives are pushing for Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to use Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to avoid seating any Republican House members who have publicly supported President Donald Trump’s attempt to steal the election from Democratic President-Elect Joe Biden.

That’s because Section 3 of the 14th Amendment literally says that anyone who has tried to rebel against the Constitution after having pledged to protect it can’t hold political office. This would include any GOP House members who signed onto an amicus brief supporting Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s bogus Supreme Court case seeking to toss hundreds of thousands of votes in four swing states, so that Trump can steal a democratically decided election.



The Section reads: “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. ”

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Democratic New Jersey Representative Bill Pascrell wrote in a tweet, “The text of the 14th Amendment expressly forbids Members of Congress from engaging in rebellion against the United States. Trying to overturn a democratic election and install a dictator seems like a pretty clear example of that.”

She won't do shyt. Democrats ain't bout that fight. Nothing will happen, all those Rethuglicans will serve in congress and probably get reelected in 2022 with no consequences, and Biden and the Dems will bend over backwards to appeal to them under the guise of 'unity.'

 

[88m3]

The New York Times



A small group of Trump's most loyal backers in Congress is plotting a final-stage challenge on the floor of the House of Representatives in early January to try to reverse Joe Biden’s victory.


NYTIMES.COM

Trump Allies Eye Long-Shot Election Reversal in Congress, Testing Pence

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Pelosi can blackball Republicans who backed Trump’s election plot from serving in Congress: report – Raw Story



She won't do shyt. Democrats ain't bout that fight. Nothing will happen, all those Rethuglicans will serve in congress and probably get reelected in 2022 with no consequences, and Biden and the Dems will bend over backwards to appeal to them under the guise of 'unity.'

Actually, if this is at all viable, I'd love to see Dems hold Pelosi to account on this rather than forcing an M4A vote, which everyone knows will fail and won't tell us anything we don't already know. You could theoretically get more Dems on board for this, both progressive and centrist.

These Rethuglicans have crossed the line too far, and enough is enough. They need to face some kind of consequences for undermining our democracy.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Moderate messaging doesn't inspire anyone. Joe Biden was disavowed any leftist rhetoric and Trump woulda beat him if like you said, he were a bit more professional

People don't care if Trump is professional sounding In fact, they love that he's not "professional" they love his fake tough guy act

Trump is incompetent. That's what the biggest issue for him is. His entire administration is filled with people who don't know how to perform the very basics of their job description and that includes Trump himself.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

These Rethuglicans have crossed the line too far, and enough is enough. They need to face some kind of consequences for undermining our democracy.

It's easy to say this. It's easy to agree with it. But Trump just had 73 million people vote for his ass. The majority of people in the U.S. ain't fukkin with him but 73 million is a lot. This isn't 2016 where you could say "well, they didn't know..."

These motherfukkers sat and watched 4 years of Trump's racist agenda and incompetence on display, watched thousands die of covid and said "give me more of that."

Do you understand what that means? The country is likely broken beyond repair. You can say that they "won't do shyt" which I also agree with most won't do a damn thing but there will be a rise in domestic terrorism...

If Pelosi said "you know what, I've seen enough, throw all these muthafukkas out" okay cool.. but what's the plan beyond that? Will these people go back into hiding as they were? I don't know the answer to it.

We don't know the answer to it. Pelosi doesn't know the answer. We are all living in a time where this country is dysfunctional and half of the people are ok with it. What's next?

It's easy to say throw them out but nobody has the answer how to handle 73 million retards.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

And the answer isn't "pile on Democrats". It's fukking stupid a lot of the posts I'm reading blaming Dems for this or that... they didn't ruin the country. Yes, they need to repair it but the answer isn't a simple one..

Biden and his administration are competent and the day-to-day will run smoothly. There's things he can do in his first 100 days that will appeal to us. That's all good.

What's not good is the 73 million people who are willing to vote against their own self interests. Biden would like to see if he can bring some of them back to reality, I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing... I don't think it would work but I don't think it's a bad idea on its surface because again 73 million retards is A LOT...

That is a lot of stupidity to deal with. I think Biden should try to reach out to moderates at least initially just to say he did and then when it's clear they are too far gone just do whatever the hell he wants to do.

 

[Pressure]

More like blame the Democratic Party for saying damn black people we ain’t gotta pay them no attention they gonna vote for Hilary like they voted for Obama because we said so.

Don't vote. I don't care what you do.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

It's easy to say this. It's easy to agree with it. But Trump just had 73 million people vote for his ass. The majority of people in the U.S. ain't fukkin with him but 73 million is a lot. This isn't 2016 where you could say "well, they didn't know..."

These motherfukkers sat and watched 4 years of Trump's racist agenda and incompetence on display, watched thousands die of covid and said "give me more of that."

Do you understand what that means? The country is likely broken beyond repair. You can say that they "won't do shyt" which I also agree with most won't do a damn thing but there will be a rise in domestic terrorism...

If Pelosi said "you know what, I've seen enough, throw all these muthafukkas out" okay cool.. but what's the plan beyond that? Will these people go back into hiding as they were? I don't know the answer to it.

We don't know the answer to it. Pelosi doesn't know the answer. We are all living in a time where this country is dysfunctional and half of the people are ok with it. What's next?

It's easy to say throw them out but nobody has the answer how to handle 73 million retards.

Look, the Trump base is not going away anytime soon, and there is very little that can be done about that. But what (theoretically) can be done is making sure that all the elected officials who went, ". You know, even though Biden was the winner of a free and fair election, we're not going to consider him as such, and we're going to attach our names to a lawsuit that serves no other purpose than to undermine our democracy," don't serve.

Because if they go back into congress with no consequences after this, what do you think is going to happen? Are they gonna go back and be like, ". We got that out of our system. Now let's work together with the Democrats to get our country on the right track! "

fukk no! You can't come back from some shyt like that, and they know if they do the Trump base will primary their asses in 2022. They will never accept Biden as the legitimate president, and for their political careers, they can't.

I agree that this is not a simple issue with a simple solution, and the Trump base will be a problem for years to come, but if at all possible these Rethuglicans should not be able to just put their heads down and slither back into congress like nothing happened.

The one major issue I see is that I assume they'd have to run special elections for those unfilled seats, and there's no guarantee that another Trump loyalist wouldn't just be put in their place, especially in the super red districts. But if you can least a few of them out the paint, that'd be better than nothing.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

fukk no! You can't come back from some shyt like that, and they know if they do the Trump base will primary their asses in 2022. They will never accept Biden as the legitimate president, and for their political careers, they can't.

I think the best way to handle these people is through someone other than Biden or Pelosi. Keep them away from it.

Put Schiff on them and let him go to work. I don't think Dem leadership should be involved in these messes. Let an attack dog go after them.

 

[neverchipsin4weed]

And the answer isn't "pile on Democrats". It's fukking stupid a lot of the posts I'm reading blaming Dems for this or that... they didn't ruin the country. Yes, they need to repair it but the answer isn't a simple one..

Biden and his administration are competent and the day-to-day will run smoothly. There's things he can do in his first 100 days that will appeal to us. That's all good.

What's not good is the 73 million people who are willing to vote against their own self interests. Biden would like to see if he can bring some of them back to reality, I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing... I don't think it would work but I don't think it's a bad idea on its surface because again 73 million retards is A LOT...

That is a lot of stupidity to deal with. I think Biden should try to reach out to moderates at least initially just to say he did and then when it's clear they are too far gone just do whatever the hell he wants to do.

the one area where I think dems gotta be more strategic with is catering to more low info voters. dems behave and campaign as if the voting public are policy wonks who actually give a fukk about pamphlets of policy details, when in reality the vast majority of voters are low info, give zero fukks about a policy specific, and respond instead to stupid shyt like “nancy pelosi is a socialist who is going to take away your freedoms”

dems gotta throw more simple campaign messages out there that are to-the-point, and capture the interest of low info voters. GOP are masters at this shyt - it’s the only way they’ve somehow found a way to get such a large amount of people somehow voting against their own interests for decades straight. dems got to catch on to these strategies, because unfortunately it’s the way to win with the US electorate

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

the one area where I think dems gotta be more strategic with is catering to more low info voters. dems behave and campaign as if the voting public are policy wonks who actually give a fukk about pamphlets of policy details, when in reality the vast majority of voters are low info, give zero fukks about a policy specific, and respond instead to stupid shyt like “nancy pelosi is a socialist who is going to take away your freedoms”

dems gotta throw more simple campaign messages out there that are to-the-point, and capture the interest of low info voters. GOP are masters at this shyt - it’s the only way they’ve somehow found a way to get such a large amount of people somehow voting against their own interests for decades straight. dems got to catch on to these strategies, because unfortunately it’s the way to win with the US electorate

I agree with a lot of this...

It's sad but this country does a horrible job explaining what the government actually does. It's starts in school.. our education system is so terrible. These people have no clue what cabinet members are for or what they actually do..

They think a fukking retard like Trump can be president because they think "anyone" can be president. Would you go see a doctor who doesn't have a diploma and no medical training or expertise?

Would go allow your car mechanic to do your taxes? The first thing people need to understand is that these jobs are important and they need to realize why someone is a good fit or why someone is not.