Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

Ozymandeas

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You already know. The base won’t accept a Romney anytime in the near future now that they’ve had a taste pure MAGA heron delivered directly to the veins.

These fiends won’t go back to Stringer’s stepped on dope from NY when they’ve tasted Prop Joe’s dope straight from the Greeks.

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Rick Santorum argument for that poll is that it would apply to WI and MN as well considering they're neighbors. I don't believe that, I think its a sampling error.

He's not 100% wrong. For instance when Ohio was tightening, MI and WI were moving farther from Trump. Some have argued Ohio is moving towards Trump now and thus MI and WI would move towards him a bit...but the last Ohio polls we saw were good for Biden.

The thing I'm looking at are district polls and state polls. In 2016, Wasserman hit the alarm about Hillary collapsing in the district polling. This year? Biden is well ahead in district polling in PA and MI for instance. I feel great about MI, and feel good about PA. We will see.

If Trump wins sure, I'm sure some will point to the Iowa poll as a harbinger. But it should also be pointed out that it was virtually the only thing to point to. Everything else looked good/great for Biden except that poll. So I'm not freaking out.

I just want this to be over with.
 

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:dead:HE fukkING DID IT AGAIN!


bush tried to warn them a year ago, but hillary said let a deplorable be a deplorable.....

“there's an old saying in pennsylvania — i know it's in nebraska, probably in pennsylvania — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you.... fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
 

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Trump needs to win everything and PA and WI. I think Michigan is gone.
 

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I don't really follow leantossup much until this cycle but they are heavy on the Biden blowout.. how reputable are they?

This is their first US Election. They got the UK Elections and Canadian Elections spot on last year.
 

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For sure, it's from one of the absolute best pollsters. But as Nate said, the Wisconsin +17 result is from one of the absolute best pollsters too. This could be an outlier.

But frankly even if it isn't an outlier, I don't think Trump winning Iowa is a surprise. Until I see MI/WI/PA polls showing Biden collapsing, I'm not concerned.


You correct on this! First let me say this the error of margin in polls will be more favourable to Trump just like last time. It will always be more favourable to Trump. People hide their feelings about voting for trump even to pollsters.

Even with all that the polls would have be damn all wrong a 8% lead collapsing so close. That's like a double standard deviation move no one saw that's like really rare to miss all that!
 

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Another thing about Selzer in Iowa. They missed the call on the 2018 gubernatorial race, and their final Democratic primary poll for Iowa earlier this year.

They may be the "gold standard" in Iowa but they aren't perfect. No polling company is perfect, there is always outliers.
 
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