Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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Plenty of middle class Joes own rental properties and between mortgages and expenses, their margins are very thin. It would be unfair to punish these people.
That wasn’t why I asked the question. I asked the question because he made a wholesale claim that rent control is stupid when that’s quite literally the only thing keeping New York from being all the way gentrified and keeping people from being kicked out of their neighborhoods. It’s a complicated issue and @OfTheCross simplified it just like he did with student debt forgiveness. He gets very Republican whenever it is something that he isn’t clearly benefitting from. How does that law on its face punish them? All it says is that the existing California rent control law, which bans raising rent prices by more than 5 percent in a given year can be expanded to properties that were built after 1995. It is literally the law that already exists expanded to new properties.
 
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I was talking to a local realtor the other day and he was hinting at there being a good amount of foreclosures on the market some time next year...we'll see though.

It all depends on how the economy bounces back and what Congress does to help

It’s why being rich is a cheat code. Recessions are for poor people. If you playing with millions everything is just on sale. Real estate types gonna snatch up everything they can for pennies and at basehead interest rates.
 

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That wasn’t why I asked the question. I asked the question because he made a wholesale claim that rent control is stupid when that’s quite literally the only thing keep New York from being all the way gentrified and keeping people from being kicked out of their neighborhoods. It’s a complicated issue and @OfTheCross simplified it just like he did with student debt forgiveness. He gets very Republican whenever it is something that he isn’t clearly benefitting from. How does that law on its face punish them? It is says is that the existing California rent control law, which bans raising rent prices by more than 5 percent in a given year can be expanded to properties that were built after 1995. It is literally the law that already exists expanded to new properties.

For the record I'm not wholesale making a statement on it. Rent Control has actually been studied quite a bit.

Not all liberal ideas are good in real life.

I support brining down the costs of housing but rent control doesn't achieve that
 

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We're getting off topic but I feel like I have to chime in on your beliefs about progressive policies yet again.



2020 California Proposition 21 - Wikipedia

Are there really that many "middle-class joes" struggling to make ends meet while collecting rent for +15 years on three or more properties :jbhmm:

IDK how I feel about this. If it’s rent control that the government subsidizes, then cool. Or if it’s rent control that is adjusted to inflation that can still rise but not to market rates, even that’s cool. But if it’s rent control that stays the same price and the landlord has to eat the cost, that’s wack. You could rent apartments for $400 in the 90s. Now that’s a crack house. Imagine some cat still trying to rent a house from you now for $400 today and rent control laws saying you have to keep it at that price :pachaha:For all that dumb sh*t, you can just do section 8, let them pay $50.00 a month and the government can pay you the rest.
 
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