Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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With these states that have mail-in/early voting, wouldn't their votes have already been counted and recorded by Election Day? Given the amount of people who have already voted (something like 20% of 2016 total votes have already been cast), I would imagine some of these states would have a clearer idea of a winner on Election Night.
Some states can't start counting mail in ballots until election day. They won't have a full tally until after election day
 

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With these states that have mail-in/early voting, wouldn't their votes have already been counted and recorded by Election Day? Given the amount of people who have already voted (something like 20% of 2016 total votes have already been cast), I would imagine some of these states would have a clearer idea of a winner on Election Night.
Every state has different rules.

You can’t draw many conclusions from the mail-in. Does it mean that overall votes will be higher?! Maybe, maybe not. Is higher turnout better for Dems? Likely but it has to be in key areas.
 

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With these states that have mail-in/early voting, wouldn't their votes have already been counted and recorded by Election Day? Given the amount of people who have already voted (something like 20% of 2016 total votes have already been cast), I would imagine some of these states would have a clearer idea of a winner on Election Night.
Most states can’t count votes until Election Day morning. Some are allowed to process the votes which speeds things up. AZ, FL, OH, and NC allow processing or early counting. So we could get their total results before 11PM on Election Day.
 

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You believe this bullsh!t, I bet? Typical :hhh:
Ddue said two intelligence officers went on FOX News and said...:russ:

That's all you need to know about where that fool gets his nonsense from...

Keeps spinning and juelzing...

Also in regards to the information on Hunter given to the shop owner and how unlikely it is that it was provided by him...I posted this link several times, of course he continues to parrot debunked FOX News talking points...

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The repair shop supposedly could not identify Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, as the customer. But the invoice (for $85 — remarkably cheap for diagnosis, recovery, and backup of three damaged Macs) has “Hunter Biden” written right on it, with a phone number and one of the email addresses he reportedly used. It seems unlikely that Hunter Biden’s personal laptop — again, loaded with personal and confidential information, and possibly communications with the VP — would be given to a small repair shop (rather than an Apple Store or vetted dealer) and that shop would be given his personal details for contact. Political operators with large supporting organizations simply don’t do that — though someone else could have.

Even if they did, the idea that Biden or his assistant or whoever would not return to pick up the laptop or pay for the services is extremely suspicious. Again, these are supposedly the personal devices of someone who communicated regularly with the VP, and whose work had come under intense scrutiny long before they were dropped off. They would not be treated lightly or forgotten. On the other hand, someone who wanted this data to be inspected would do exactly this.
 
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Trafalgar Group Polling Predicts Trump Win | National Review


The polling aggregator on the website RealClearPolitics shows the margin in polls led by Joe Biden in a blue font and the ones led by Donald Trump in red. For a while, the battleground states have tended to be uniformly blue, except for polls conducted by the Trafalgar Group.

If you are a firm believer only in polling averages, this isn’t particularly meaningful, but if you are familiar with Trafalgar’s successes in 2016, when (unlike other pollsters) it had Trump leading in Michigan and Pennsylvania and, in 2018, Ron DeSantis winning his gubernatorial race, it is notable. Regardless, it’s worth knowing why one pollster is departing from nearly everyone else.
 

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Bias sample this is what he does. Throw the bs in the with averages


Cahaly has honed several techniques for capturing this "shy" Trump vote, including asking respondents not only how they themselves will vote, but also how they think their neighbors plan to vote. Cahaly's rationale is this gives these more guarded voters a more socially acceptable method for expressing their own feelings, by projecting them onto others.
 

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Trafalgar got lucky in 2016. They are a Republican preferred poll outfit so, they have a strong R bias or they can't keep getting paid. They are out on a limb this time for a reason - because they expect the electorate to look like four years ago. In the most important places, it won't. On 538 they get a C- and Nate and crew have NO reason to not like data if they think it's credible no matter who's providing it.
 

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Yea I don't care how right he was in 2016, I'm not going to believe anything from a clown that says this...

I believe Pennsylvania to be the No. 1 state that Trump could win and have stolen due to voter fraud.”

Its also been said repeatedly at this point, this ain't 2016 and Joe ain't Hillary...

Joe is polling better than Trump. with seniors, white women and 20% higher with uneducated CACs than Hillary was...Joe also has a +1 favorability score among likely voters...Hillary had a -10...Add in the fact we're on pace for record voter turnout and its painfully clear this ain't 2016...

I get why folk are cautious though but it's also worth noting, I had zero confidence in Hillary...I was amongst the few posters on here who kept telling yall she is very polarizing and folk just don't like her...This time around, I'm genuinely confident Joe got this...
 

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Florida going blue could get us an election night result

But like trump said they have a "good governor"

I assume "good" would refer to his loyalty because if we're talking competency, that's the last word almost everyone would use to describe him. At times DeSantis makes Trump actually look like he knows what he's doing.
 
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