Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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Puerto Ricans who live in Puerto Rico like many other Latinos that live in Latin America are very conservative when it comes to social issues (anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, anti-gun control, etc). To be fair, many Black people here in America are also socially conservative but due to the Republicans history of overt and covert racism towards Black people, most of those Black voters still vote for the Democratic Party.

Island-living Puerto Ricans don't have the knowledge or history of the Republicans. However, Puerto Ricans that have been living in the mainland US for decades vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats. Additionally, Republicans opposition to PR statehood and Trump's response to Hurricane Maria will make PR a likely blue/Democratic state for the foreseeable future. PR would be more competitive for Republicans on a local level though.

if they vote like social conservatives but fiscally liberal I don’t think that’s much of a problem in the shorty term.We used to have grey senators on both sides. This purity politics has ruined both sides.
 

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Abrams would probably be on her way to winning a senate seat right now. Instead she's going to spend the next few years as nothing more than an MSNBC guest. Beto could be winning a seat right now...instead he embarrassed himself running for president, talking about taking guns away. And Gillum....don't even get me started man.



Gillum would be sitting pretty right now, if not for that nonsense. He'd be poised to either challenge Rubio's seat in 2022, or take on DeSantis again. In an alternate reality we'd be in a thread right now arguing over which race he should run. Personally, I'd say governor. Rubio can probably hold that seat for decades, whereas DeSantis is in trouble.

The DNC needs young talent. In order for that they will have to win more state and local elections. The GOP basically swept the state level during the Obama years. Also they will have to energize the base for midterm elections. Dems get too relaxed after winning big elections and the DNC is lead by feckless leaders. Howard Dean's 50 state strategy should have never been abandoned. The Florida DNC is truly pathetic and poorly ran.
 

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How? The online left largely ignores southern democrats and mainstream discussions about the left and democrats ignores the plight of democrats in the south.

Even Killer Mike would disagree with you on that. Democrats spend a lot of time and money down south helping black people. The problem is that when a state-wide seat opens up, democrats decide to focus on the national issues of the moment instead of the state/local issues that matter.
 

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Even Killer Mike would disagree with you on that. Democrats spend a lot of time and money down south helping black people. The problem is that when a state-wide seat opens up, democrats decide to focus on the national issues of the moment instead of the state/local issues that matter.
Thats a different argument.

I know democrats and the work they do LOCALLY in the south ... I can vouch for that personally. especially the examples killer mike uses.

However, nationally, southern democrats are left to flap in the wind with no long term investment aims or motives or projects outside of spontaneous campaigns with energy. Theres no commitment down south.
 

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If Joe wins and the Dems control everything, they better make Presidential elections a popular vote
It isn't possible to do this. Democrats won't get a 2/3rds majority in both the house and senate which is what's required for a constitutional amendment. The electoral college will never go anywhere because it favors republican candidates for the most part. For them to get rid of it involves them voting against their best interest.

I'd argue that the bigger problem is every state getting 2 senators. That and the gerrymandered house districts. Both of those things warp our federal government to the point where a minority of the population controls the federal government's makeup.
 

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