Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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Here comes the drama :francis:






https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ccc4fa-f4a1-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html
Sanders voices concern about Biden campaign - The Washington Post
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Sen. Bernie Sanders speaks during the Democratic National Convention in late August. (AP)
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is privately expressing concerns about Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, according to three people with knowledge of the conversations, urging Biden’s team to intensify its focus on pocketbook issues and appeals to liberal voters.

Sanders, the runner-up to Biden in the Democratic primary, has told associates that Biden is at serious risk of coming up short in the November election if he continues his vaguer, more centrist approach, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive talks.

The senator has identified several specific changes he’d like to see, saying Biden should talk more about health care and about his economic plans, and should campaign more with figures popular among young liberals, such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.).

Asked for comment, Sanders’s team provided a statement from Faiz Shakir, the senator’s former campaign manager in the presidential race, saying that Sanders is “working as hard as he can” to get Biden elected but has advised some strategic adjustments.

“Senator Sanders is confident that Joe Biden is in a very strong position to win this election, but nevertheless feels there are areas the campaign can continue to improve upon,” Shakir said. “He has been in direct contact with the Biden team and has urged them to put more emphasis on how they will raise wages, create millions of good paying jobs, lower the cost of prescription drugs and expand health care coverage.”

Shakir said Sanders “also thinks that a stronger outreach to young people, the Latino community and the progressive movement will be of real help to the campaign.”


The Biden campaign declined to comment.

Sanders led a surging liberal faction during the Democratic primaries and scored early successes in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada before ultimately falling short. His critique of Biden’s approach reflects his status as a longtime stalwart of the party’s left and a self-described democratic socialist.
But it is rare for such a prominent party figure to repeatedly voice private criticisms of the party’s nominee and acknowledge them publicly, especially in the campaign’s final stretch. Sanders’s decision to do so suggests the ongoing frustration among liberals, who urgently want Biden to defeat President Trump but are upset that he has taken a relatively centrist path.

Biden is determined not to play into attacks from Trump seeking to cast him as a radical or a socialist. The nominee has distanced himself from elements in his party calling for defunding the police, implementing a single-payer health plan and banning hydraulic fracturing, or fracking. Sanders supports the latter two policies.

Still, Sanders has worked hard to publicly support Biden, and Democrats are eager to avoid the divide between the senator and Hillary Clinton that hurt the party in 2016. On Saturday, Sanders is slated to host a virtual town hall that is expected to express support for Biden.

But Sanders contends Democrats have the best chance of winning if they stress economic populism
, those close to him said, rather than if they embrace a sole strategy of attacking Trump and avoiding hot-button issues.

Until now, there had been few outward signs of discord between Biden and Sanders. Shortly after the senator ended his campaign in April, he promptly endorsed Biden, offering an unequivocal stamp of approval.
Associates of both men say they personally like each other, having been Senate colleagues. After Biden emerged as the presumptive nominee, the two formed a series of task forces, made up of allies of both men, that crafted policy recommendations on health-care, climate change and other topics.
In some ways, Biden has moved closer to Sanders’s brand of populism as left-leaning activism has surged inside and outside the Democratic Party. He has talked of a Franklin D. Roosevelt-style presidency if he wins and urged sweeping change to combat the novel coronavirus, racism and other issues.
But Sanders has come to worry about the Biden campaign’s prospects, even as the Democratic nominee leads Trump in the national polls, associates said. Surveys in some potentially pivotal states show a closer race between Biden and Trump, stoking nervousness among Democrats still traumatized by Clinton’s 2016 defeat.

The people familiar with Sanders’s private conversations said he has a expressed a sentiment that the liberal, millennial slice of the party has not received the attention its merits. As a candidate, Sanders drew big crowds of hundreds — sometimes thousands — of young, enthusiastic people with left-leaning views.

Another Sanders concern, according to one of the people, is that the Biden campaign has kept its distance from some of the marquee surrogates who campaigned for Sanders and helped him attract a large following. Ocasio-Cortez, for example, has not campaigned closely with Biden.

As a candidate, Sanders frequently emphasized his economic plans, which were geared toward curtailing wealthy and powerful interests and championing working-class people. Biden has recently been touting his “Build Back Better” plan, which calls for immense new investments in American jobs and industry.

And in questioning Biden’s outreach to Latino voters, among whom Sanders showed strength in the Democratic primary, the senator is touching on a topic that is increasingly on the minds of Democratic leaders.

Polls have shown Biden leading Trump among Latinos, but not as widely as many Democrats hoped. As a result, fretful discussions are underway in the party about Biden’s standing with Latino voters in battleground states such as Florida, Arizona, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, where Latinos could play a pivotal role in the outcome.


How to not read the temperature of the room or How not to become a president 101. Doesn't get it.
 

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I agree with add his response is what fukked him his inability to he a leader in a time of need/concern. Instead he decided to be a divisive politician and gamble that states would take the blame
im not gonna argue with you guys that going from historic low unemployment, to a once in a lifetime pandemic, fukked trump and his campaign

there is literally nothing to dispute about that statement. this is a fukking asinine argument :dead:
 

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Do you understand polling and exit polling dynamics? Kelly is murdering McSally in Republican strong hold myacopa county.. Them cacs will vote for an astronaut over some white bytch who wasn’t even elected to the seat and lost when she did run lmaooo

They gonna vote down ballot but let’s say they vote Kelly and then vote trump... Even if trump wins re election it’s a over 70% possibility Dems take the senate.. Trump is fukked either way

Ask yourself the same question. Split ticket voting is increasingly rare - do YOU understand what that is? Split-Ticket Voting Hit A New Low In 2018 Senate And Governor Races

It happens a lot less now. But it does happen. I'm interested in how the two correleate, or don't

And no, if Trump wins, taking the Senate also starts to look a whole lot LESS Likely, plus VP is President of the Senate and can break ties, which can also end up being a disastrous factor if it stays Pence.
 

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no george floyd wouldn't..none of those deaths move the needle. and trump would have still won. His proven to be pretty much teflon on damn near everything.



his covid response is whats getting him outta the paint.
His horrible response to unrest definitely damaged him with undecideds. Correct me if I’m wrong but Biden’s biggest lead was during the height of unrests. Trump didn’t even win the popular vote in 2016 and won by a slim margin in swing states. His base didn’t grow at all and Biden is more popular than Clinton. It definitely wouldn’t have been a certainty that Trump would have won re-election. I’d say Biden would still be favored. Polling showed Biden winning precovid.
 

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They keep trying to put the social unrest and coronavirus on to Biden. It's incredible.

President running as an outsider

Election wasn't rigged when he won and wasn't president
Election is rigged when he lost and is president

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President recorded saying he plays down the rona
Senator says he's not down with gotcha books

Those are the gymnastics that they are trying to run.

fukk them, fukk them all.
 

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you're wrong :yeshrug: the economy, unemployment, jobs coming back, how and when to reopen, work from home implications, the debt, bills to restore the economy, all are discussed more than the running death count which most americans clearly have put out mind

you know how i know this? i watch 9 hours of news a day working from home

bad faith :hhh:

9 hours every day? :picard:
 

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And people are withholding votes because of money. Brehs, some wild shyt we ain't ready for is on the other side of a 2nd term for Trump because it will lead into being a third term for Trump. I trust nothing to be stopped? Why, No one has stopped the small shyt before the snowball becomes an unstoppable force. We have one shot to get this right. Get him the fukk out of here.
 

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No surprise but I just saw a disingenuous Trump ad during the Jets-Bills game (not a fan of either team). They took a Biden quote where he said that if the experts said to shut down the country he would listen to them and "shut it down". The Trump campaign put that in the ad and made it seem like Biden wants to "shut down" the coronavirus vaccine.

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Yup, people don't realize but she's made significant changes in how she operates over the past 2 years. And that's a good thing. She's going to be around for a long time.
too little too late. she already has made life long enemies on both sides of the aisle. the average FOX watcher already knows her, hates her and really doesnt even know why.

somebody like AP will be around for a while because she isnt an idiot
 

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too little too late. she already has made life long enemies on both sides of the aisle. the average FOX watcher already knows her, hates her and really doesnt even know why.

somebody like AP will be around for a while because she isnt an idiot
AP is 46 so she wasn't with the drama and bullshyt coming in. :heh:

I don't think AOC cares much about being an enemy to Republicans but she's fallen in line more often lately than she didn't initially. I think her outspokenness helps her in her district.
 
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