Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

[MoneyTron]

Pretty much. The goal is to WIN the Presidency first, and then execute your plan. Sanders maybe thought the country was ready for further left ideas, plus while I don't he was racist, his idea of 'All-for-Everyone' sounds a bit tone deaf to a degree... white people are still treated more than minorities, so how could you suddenly convince people was going to get a equal share?

As I said, Bernie is a good guy, with a good heart, but he lacked that understanding you can't preach to everyone with the same message and have the same effect in people's hearts.

When Progressives learn they can't policy wonk their way to the top, they'll start making shyt shake.

In this aspect, Biden probably is one of the best people to watch. Being a politician is just as much as sales as anything else. People have to have confidence in your ideas and confidence in you no matter how shytty those ideas may be.

 

[MushroomX]

When Progressives learn they can't policy wonk their way to the top, they'll start making shyt shake.

In this aspect, Biden probably is one of the best people to watch. Being a politician is just as much as sales as anything else. People have to have confidence in your ideas and confidence in you no matter how shytty those ideas may be.

And this is just me, but I believe that Sanders is more of a firestarter. He has planted the seeds in the younger generation of Democratic Socialism, but they really won't start to bloom for at least a few more election cycles after this. You'll be seeing more challengers against Incumbent Democrats in primaries though, as these ideas won't be going away.

 

[acri1]

"Defund the police" tells you everything you need to know about leftists and their inability to message, defend, or win. They should probably stick to M4A because that's about all they have going for them.

Biden will definitely face off with progressives (not leftists, who won't be seated at the table) if he wins, just as Obama did at times. I'm gonna just hope and believe that his camp isn't stupid enough to think austerity is the answer. They have to be bold, right away. We need a 3T stimulus with direct payments to Americans - not just a one month thing, but multiple months - as well as infrastructure spending and state bailouts. We need a public option added to Obamacare. And we probably need some type of child care policy/help. Those items are probably the most important domestic issues relating to fixing the economy during this pandemic. Other things like a new voting rights act are important too and should be first term priorities, but remember: it's rare for presidents to do a lot of shyt in two years. They typically focus on a couple items.

You forgot about climate change

We're literally running out of time to avoid the worst case scenario. If Biden wins he needs to take some serious action on it.

 

[DrDealgood]

AOC got nearly all the political talent Bernie don't. And the awful irony is SHE has deliberately backed away from Rose Twitter style obnoxiousness because the bytch know how to take a 40,000 foot view and MAKE FRIENDS. She even temporarily works with slime like Cruz if it'll possibly help get shyt done Wait, Did Ted Cruz and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez… Agree on Something?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

it looks like Tombstones

 

[No1]

"Defund the police" tells you everything you need to know about leftists and their inability to message, defend, or win. They should probably stick to M4A because that's about all they have going for them.

Biden will definitely face off with progressives (not leftists, who won't be seated at the table) if he wins, just as Obama did at times. I'm gonna just hope and believe that his camp isn't stupid enough to think austerity is the answer. They have to be bold, right away. We need a 3T stimulus with direct payments to Americans - not just a one month thing, but multiple months - as well as infrastructure spending and state bailouts. We need a public option added to Obamacare. And we probably need some type of child care policy/help. Those items are probably the most important domestic issues relating to fixing the economy during this pandemic. Other things like a new voting rights act are important too and should be first term priorities, but remember: it's rare for presidents to do a lot of shyt in two years. They typically focus on a couple items.

Ending the filibuster could allow Biden to tackle more than 2-3 issues btw. He has to be bold. Democrats have to literally fix this shyt in 4 years. There can be no half assing, no deficit fukkery, no quarter given to disingenuous republicans. Fix shyt, make shyt better, and then go into 2024 with Harris ready to take over.

The strangest thing about HL in 2020 is that a dude like this who is clearly uneducated on anything “leftist” or what it means and wouldn’t know his way around a policy paper or activism and probably doesn’t know about any of these concepts until they hit TV has become confident enough to give opinions and know that he will have significant support on this board. That exodus of the progressive core of HL circa 2016 is real. The majority of the posts in here is just basically an AA meeting for people who are mad some cats with roses in their avi hurt their feelings on Twitter. You know what’s an actual radical idea? That time you tried to explain away and normalize your sugar daddy tricking because you don’t get any women.

According to a Gallup survey taken in July, 70 percent of Black Americans support or strongly support reducing police department budgets. But despite its popularity among Black Americans, strategists said if Biden backed the idea, he would run the risk of losing the support of moderate older white voters, a key demographic.

The idea of defunding police forces dates back to people like DuBois. I’m starting to wonder if HL has shifted to being composed of the least radical segment of the black population.

 

[MoneyTron]

AOC got nearly all the political talent Bernie don't. And the awful irony is SHE has deliberately backed away from Rose Twitter style obnoxiousness because the bytch know how to take a 40,000 foot view and MAKE FRIENDS. She even temporarily works with slime like Cruz if it'll possibly help get shyt done Wait, Did Ted Cruz and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez… Agree on Something?

Yup, people don't realize but she's made significant changes in how she operates over the past 2 years. And that's a good thing. She's going to be around for a long time.

 

[ill_will82]

"Defund the police" tells you everything you need to know about leftists and their inability to message, defend, or win. They should probably stick to M4A because that's about all they have going for them.

Biden will definitely face off with progressives (not leftists, who won't be seated at the table) if he wins, just as Obama did at times. I'm gonna just hope and believe that his camp isn't stupid enough to think austerity is the answer. They have to be bold, right away. We need a 3T stimulus with direct payments to Americans - not just a one month thing, but multiple months - as well as infrastructure spending and state bailouts. We need a public option added to Obamacare. And we probably need some type of child care policy/help. Those items are probably the most important domestic issues relating to fixing the economy during this pandemic. Other things like a new voting rights act are important too and should be first term priorities, but remember: it's rare for presidents to do a lot of shyt in two years. They typically focus on a couple items.

Ending the filibuster could allow Biden to tackle more than 2-3 issues btw. He has to be bold. Democrats have to literally fix this shyt in 4 years. There can be no half assing, no deficit fukkery, no quarter given to disingenuous republicans. Fix shyt, make shyt better, and then go into 2024 with Harris ready to take over.

All of that sounds good on paper but Joe probably gone have to spend his first 2 years (if he wins) in office trying to undo a lot of the corrupt bs that Trump has done including, dealing with the coronavirus. That's the very first priority he's going to have to deal with.

 

[BK The Great]

Donald the liar

 

[Conan]

"Defund the police" tells you everything you need to know about leftists and their inability to message, defend, or win. They should probably stick to M4A because that's about all they have going for them.

Biden will definitely face off with progressives (not leftists, who won't be seated at the table) if he wins, just as Obama did at times. I'm gonna just hope and believe that his camp isn't stupid enough to think austerity is the answer. They have to be bold, right away. We need a 3T stimulus with direct payments to Americans - not just a one month thing, but multiple months - as well as infrastructure spending and state bailouts. We need a public option added to Obamacare. And we probably need some type of child care policy/help. Those items are probably the most important domestic issues relating to fixing the economy during this pandemic. Other things like a new voting rights act are important too and should be first term priorities, but remember: it's rare for presidents to do a lot of shyt in two years. They typically focus on a couple items.

Ending the filibuster could allow Biden to tackle more than 2-3 issues btw. He has to be bold. Democrats have to literally fix this shyt in 4 years. There can be no half assing, no deficit fukkery, no quarter given to disingenuous republicans. Fix shyt, make shyt better, and then go into 2024 with Harris ready to take over.

This is someone who has played the fence his entire political career. He's not going to be bold. And his mind will first and foremost be with the noble moderate Republicans and Reagan (hint: subtle racist) Democrats in Wisconsin and Western Pennsylvania. Already there's reports of him worrying about the deficit () and eliminating the filibuster.

I'll put good money down on this too. This "heal the soul of the nation and don't rock the boat too much" schtick, he's gonna carry it all the way into 2025, book it.

 

[Conan]

The strangest thing about HL in 2020 is that a dude like this who is clearly uneducated on anything “leftist” or what it means and wouldn’t know his way around a policy paper or activism and probably doesn’t know about any of these concepts until they hit TV has become confident enough to give opinions and know that he will have significant support on this board. That exodus of the progressive core of HL circa 2016 is real. The majority of the posts in here is just basically an AA meeting for people who are mad some cats with roses in their avi hurt their feelings on Twitter. You know what’s an actual radical idea? That time you tried to explain away and normalize your sugar daddy tricking because you don’t get any women.



The idea of defunding police forces dates back to people like DuBois. I’m starting to wonder if HL has shifted to being composed of the least radical segment of the black population.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Kamala making her rounds in doral in Miami which is the Venezuelan/Colombian part of town. Right close to trump doral too

 

[Conan]

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

good episode on what dems need to do down the stretch.

 

[mastermind]

Ppl don’t like progressive policies because they are pipe dreams that will not work in the real world. We don’t need Obama to tell us what to like like Bernie does for progressives.

You are not a serious person. You would have told MLK to chill, you asking for too much.

breh you cant just act like people dont like them, but they're as easy as implementing them as it looks on paper. there ARE drawbacks if you were to implement some of this stuff

"why dont you like free healthcare"? bernie sanders is not some magic genie who can snap his fingers and healthcare becomes better and faster and cheaper and there arent any negatives

Fam, you have told us for years you don’t actually follow any of this stuff seriously.

I don't hate the policies in a vacuum. I don't think many people do. I think some of them are good ideas.

However, I find some of the policies and views espoused by progressives on domestic issues and foreign relations don't align with some of my values. I find some of them to extremely idealist, unrealistic, and sometimes ignorant of how this country operates. It is what it is. I just don't find myself agreeing with progressives enough to call myself a progressive.


On another note, progressives also have a messaging problem. Many of them seem to a have similar idea to the far right in that a revolution will solve all of our problems. I don't agree. The system can work and I think much of the American public thinks similarly.

The only time we have seen change in this nation is through revolutionary means.

Like I said prior, if you are a marginalized person in America and arent asking for basic things like cleaner air which mostly impacts the poor and marginalized or a chance to not be working while poor and positive health outcomes, then you are part of the problem.