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Agree to disagree

I look forward to the "not quality but affordable healthcare"

Don't think expanding Obamacare is the ticket
and i dont think america is gonna consider medicare for all until it gets more desperate. the democratic primary voters sure seem to feel that way :ehh:
 

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this primary has proven that biden is more electable than bernie :yeshrug:

You're not an idiot. Don't pretend to be one

Biden is barely up on Bernie despite the entire Party being in his corner and doing their best to shyt on Sanders politely.

If he were more electable he 1. wouldn't have needed that assist from everyone and 2. would be up by much more.
 

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Civility politics is gross because we can be mad at stuff like people dying from not having health care and climate change but they'll call out a whole movement because they didn't like hearing people respond in a certain way. Warren might be the worst politician I've seen. She's done some great shyt but continues to shoot herself in the foot.
 

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biden is beating bernie 4.5 million votes to 3.5 million votes :yeshrug:

So...after 19 states and 12.5 Million votes they're separated by less than 1 million votes despite Biden having the backing of the entire Party, corporate Media and Big money donors.

That's not a very good case. I wonder how much Bernie would be up by with that support. I wonder where Biden would be without it.
 

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So...after 19 states and 12.5 Million votes they're separated by less than 1 million votes despite Biden having the backing of the entire Party, corporate Media and Big money donors.

That's not a very good case. I wonder how much Bernie would be up by with that support. I wonder where Biden would be without it.
you cant prove that voters are voting for biden just because "the party supports him" :yeshrug: biden has been beating bernie in the polls since day 1

you refuse to accept that half the democratic party is moderate, and that bernie's proposals rely on raising taxes to replace existing an existing system, and a lot of people aren't comfortable with that. i dont know what to tell you :ehh: i like bernie, im not some napoleon shythead who hates him. im just trying to interpret this as realistic as i can
 

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So...after 19 states and 12.5 Million votes they're separated by less than 1 million votes despite Biden having the backing of the entire Party, corporate Media and Big money donors.

That's not a very good case. I wonder how much Bernie would be up by with that support. I wonder where Biden would be without it.

Pretty much this.

That being said I think it's enough for Biden to have a shot in the general. But Hillary also had this kind of support too...repeat of 2016 or will being an old white dude cinch it?
 

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Pretty much this.

That being said I think it's enough for Biden to have a shot in the general. But Hillary also had this kind of support too...repeat of 2020 or will being an old white dude cinch it?
Biden's only advantage is he isn't hated nearly as much as Hillary. But they're gonna hide him alot and hope he has enough gas to win off anti Trump hate and some superstar surrogates.
 

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you cant prove that voters are voting for biden just because "the party supports him" :yeshrug: biden has been beating bernie in the polls since day 1

you refuse to accept that half the democratic party is moderate, and that bernie's proposals rely on raising taxes to replace existing an existing system, and a lot of people aren't comfortable with that. i dont know what to tell you :ehh: i like bernie, im not some napoleon shythead who hates him. im just trying to interpret this as realistic as i can
Bernie tax brackets don't touch taxes on most of the middle class but media has spun it different than that

The moderates and progressives need each other and they are not gonna unite over biden. I see the party eventually shifting but I agree they are are not fully ready yet unfortunately. Gonna at least take another 4 years of trump to wake people up
 

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you cant prove that voters are voting for biden just because "the party supports him" :yeshrug: biden has been beating bernie in the polls since day 1

you refuse to accept that half the democratic party is moderate, and that bernie's proposals rely on raising taxes to replace existing an existing system, and a lot of people aren't comfortable with that. i dont know what to tell you :ehh: i like bernie, im not some napoleon shythead who hates him. im just trying to interpret this as realistic as i can
I don't disagree with that argument. What I'm contesting is the electability. None of these guys is more electable than the other.

But vs. Trump, Bernie is the better matchup on Trade, S.S., Healthcare, and respectability.

I just don't see Biden surviving Trump because he's got too much ego. He'll care when Trump calls him names or mocks him or makes fun of his son, or his terrible votes or his stutter or his riding coattails, etc.

Biden might short-circuit and start doing random pushups on stage.

Bernie is so focused on his own policy that he can't be insulted, that shyt will bounce off him and he'll continue to hammer Trump for being a liar. For wanting to cut S.S, for throwing ppl off healthcare, for gutting public education, for giving tax cuts to millionaires and billionares, etc
 

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Pretty much this.

That being said I think it's enough for Biden to have a shot in the general. But Hillary also had this kind of support too...repeat of 2016 or will being an old white dude cinch it?
I would vote for Biden depending on how this Primary ends. I was probably never going to vote for Hillary.

Maybe they're banking on people like me actually voting for him.
 
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