i tried to tell you. yes these people are low info voters, white folks included. why do you think every politician i think except for joe came with a bootleg health plan that sounded like medicare for all.at those polls
So people who are in favor of m4a voted for Biden? Because they think he supports that too?
Am I getting that right?
Yeah nah fukk that. We need a splash play. If we can pull some HRC stans back from Biden with that kind of move, you’ve GOT to do it.
I think it has everything to do with the youth turnout. I haven't had the time to form my proper thoughts on this yet.
why did it take being up against the wall to finally start seeing/admitting this? i know some of us go hard on bernie (bernie bros) from various petty angles, but in that, there has been plenty of real critique about his strategies and rhetoric that get dismissed as people just hating, not being real progressives, or simply wanting black people to be pandered to. you have to politick to be in politics, maybe his unyielding approach is what you all love about him, but you had to know there's a ceiling to that.
Pete vs Beto will be pretty epic tbh if we get to that point. I know Beto wants revenge. But Pete is a ruthless gay cyborg. I dunno if he can stand toe to toeThe amount of infighting and factional wars inside the Biden administration will put Trump's to shame. He's basically going to be a senile figurehead while a bunch of younger players fight for the power behind the throne and to take over when he kicks the bucket. Gonna be some Shakesperean shyt.
I think we all conceded the south before the election began. We just thought that with the split vote, Sanders survives and that maybe Biden drops out. None of the other candidates could beat him in the south without everyone behind them. It just turns out that the Democrats waited until the last minute and everyone dropped out and then the vote for Biden was no longer divided. No one thought Kamala Harris, Booker, etc., would all be gone this early. We didn’t think these white ass candidates would be left. It was just a fundamental miscalculation. And yeah - we do all hate the pandering fakeness of politics so his lack of doing that didn’t bother us. Why would we applaud lying? The thing about being a progressive is that it comes from a genuine place of caring about everyone and everyone else’s suffering. You’re looking at a candidate in Sanders who only ran because Warren didn’t in 2015. Who endorsed Obama over Clinton and Jesse Jackson over everyone else. His supporters are disproportionately of that brand. The anger and vitriol you guys see is just disappointment in everyone agreeing that you have the right ideas and then rejecting them anyway. It’s about putting in the time and effort and Biden running the laziest campaign ever and Bloomberg being able to just buy up attention. I don’t understand why so many people are dancing on the graves of Sanders supporters- it’s as if they forgot we were the idealistic teenagers who backed Obama too and then gave up. Sanders gave those people a reason to care about politics again, and for some reason a couple stupid white boys on Twitter made everyone forget that. It would be one thing losing to someone who worked as hard as Warren but fukking Biden? Warren did so much of that shot you said and went nowhere. It means nothing we could’ve done would’ve mattered. This man didn’t make a single impression on black people for 30 years before a black man made him VP. It’s the most disheartening shyt that I’ve witnessed in politics aside from Democrats not going all in with a supermajority. It’s like the popular kid winning the school election just to put it on his resume when the nerd is actually trying to make things better.
