Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!
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It's crazy how it feels like everyone trying to flex power is against Bernie, yet a combination of fortuitous circumstances, their own errors, and Bernie's legitimacy is causing damn near everything to break in his direction. Some of us are talking "oh crap this, oh crap that", but if you take for granted that a huge number of people were gonna be a$$holes who didn't want Bernie to win....it is AMAZING how consistently the circumstances have favored him anyway.
* Biden collapsing
* Warren's attacks backfiring
* Buttigieg pulling away the centrists in the first two states and then being unviable after that
* Bloomberg not even being eligible in the first few states and then flying it to pull voters away from the centrists before they can recover from the Buttigieg ambush
* Biden losing his electability cred, Warren losing her progressive cred, Buttigieg shooting himself in the foot with Black voters and those who hate money in politics, Bloomberg having an exposal tape a mile long, and the mainstream media and establishment completely exposing themselves in a manner that Bernie can survive and potentially even get his supporters energized on.
And at the center, I think is just the simple fact that people see Bernie as a real....fellow, and everyone else looking fake as fukk. They can't get nothing on him cause he's always been exactly who he says he is and believes what he's preaching with all his heart, and it's like a fukking vibranium suit that absorbs all the energy tossed at him and sends it right back at em.
It could easily turn at some point. Perhaps their attacks will stop backfiring, or simple bitterness or money-lust will cause so many dems to sit out the general that he can't win. But so far it has been remarkable to see how he's earned every break and you get the feeling it might just continue.
* Biden collapsing
* Warren's attacks backfiring
* Buttigieg pulling away the centrists in the first two states and then being unviable after that
* Bloomberg not even being eligible in the first few states and then flying it to pull voters away from the centrists before they can recover from the Buttigieg ambush
* Biden losing his electability cred, Warren losing her progressive cred, Buttigieg shooting himself in the foot with Black voters and those who hate money in politics, Bloomberg having an exposal tape a mile long, and the mainstream media and establishment completely exposing themselves in a manner that Bernie can survive and potentially even get his supporters energized on.
And at the center, I think is just the simple fact that people see Bernie as a real....fellow, and everyone else looking fake as fukk. They can't get nothing on him cause he's always been exactly who he says he is and believes what he's preaching with all his heart, and it's like a fukking vibranium suit that absorbs all the energy tossed at him and sends it right back at em.
It could easily turn at some point. Perhaps their attacks will stop backfiring, or simple bitterness or money-lust will cause so many dems to sit out the general that he can't win. But so far it has been remarkable to see how he's earned every break and you get the feeling it might just continue.
OfTheCross
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noob_saibot
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storyteller
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I don't want to jump the gun by reflecting on this all too early, but the three ideas that I've been turning over in my head as all this unfolds are:
1) Just how vehemently much of the establishment side has tried to counter Bernie. Especially while they speak on things like unity and having to beat Trump at all costs.
2) How the competing self-interests across the moderate spectrum led to this watered down bunch all hurting each other. These cats coulda consolidated behind one source, but couldn't pick one and they all knee capped each other before Super Tuesday...so Bloomberg's left and his viability is the perfect example of oligarchy.
3) And this one's my favorite but also the most tangential...How big a role Occupy Wall Street played in shifting discourse and enthusiasm to a point where Sanders came along and had an entire generation basically say "FINALLY..." I really think OWS' impact has always been downplayed and won't get the credit it deserves, but as I've gone to events and rallies the amount of people who trace back to OWS somehow some way is pretty wild. Granted, I'm in North Jersey and NYC daily, so proximity helps. Also, word to Matt Binder from the Doomed Podcast because I had a convo with him that got me thinking about this more.
I had the pleasure of attending a Bernie rally a while back. There was close to 10,000 ppl there. The level of energy and sense of unity is unlike anything i have ever experienced.
Brehs, if Bernie only ends up with 1520 delegates, thats still 470 short
storyteller
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Brehs, if Bernie only ends up with 1520 delegates, thats still 470 short
I legit don't think they could afford to rob him in round 2 at those margins, but this is pure speculation. No one's close enough to make the case that the will of the people is still represented by selecting them. It'd be a disaster to choose that route.
Get ready for disaster. I got my ticket to Milly and a megaphone waiting
afterlife2009
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Bernie needs at least 1800 delegates for me to feel safe that they won't hose him on the second ballot. Mini Mike is in the race not to win but to make sure Bern doesn't reach the 1990 delegates you need to win.
Bloomberg gave 100 million to Pelosi's handpicked house candidates in 2018 so impeachment could happen. This is a clear play by the donor class. We would be picking up these average Democrats if Bloomberg didn't enter the race. Some stuff from Faiz and how they handled MSNBC's fukkery. Interesting
Bloomberg gave 100 million to Pelosi's handpicked house candidates in 2018 so impeachment could happen. This is a clear play by the donor class. We would be picking up these average Democrats if Bloomberg didn't enter the race. Some stuff from Faiz and how they handled MSNBC's fukkery. Interesting
OfTheCross
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afterlife2009
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Get ready for disaster. I got my ticket to Milly and a megaphone waiting
Thinking of booking a flight from DC to Milwaukee that week?
1800?
breh, I just can't see it... He has to overperform the polls
PoorAndDangerous
Superstar
I mean this is definitely going to a brokered convention so Dems can either nominate the guy who got the most votes or they can get a second term of Trump. We will get what we deserve
Warren will drop out. As will Biden at this point. Sanders best case scenario is him versus Bloomberg.Thinking of booking a flight from DC to Milwaukee that week?
1800?