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Prob because it’s down to these two in the primary ?
And if Biden wins?

She just hamstrung the democratic nominee with the word corrupt.

She could have said he is beholden to lobbyists.

Now Trump even has impeachment fodder, cause he can now claim, "you are impeaching me for investigating Hunter Biden but even you admit Biden is corrupt"

Teachout could have said he is beholden to lobbyists...she used corrupt.

Initially I thought she misspoke, but Teachout's no fool.

Are people in the Democratic party ready to burn everything down and sabotage the nominee if Bernie doesn't win?
 

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And if Biden wins?

She just hamstrung the democratic nominee with the word corrupt.

She could have said he is beholden to lobbyists.

Now Trump even has impeachment fodder, cause he can now claim, "you are impeaching me for investigating Hunter Biden but even you admit Biden is corrupt"

Teachout could have said he is beholden to lobbyists...she used corrupt.

Initially I thought she misspoke, but Teachout's no fool.

Wo are people in the Democratic party ready to burn everything down and sabotage the nominee if Bernie doesn't win?
protecting biden now is counter productive cause trump is going to use all this stuff in the general and biden wont be able to cry to dem establishment hacks to protect him. and trump will win again, the answer to beating trump isnt picking the worst candidate and then trying to hide all his corruption.
 

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And if Biden wins?

She just hamstrung the democratic nominee with the word corrupt.

She could have said he is beholden to lobbyists.

Now Trump even has impeachment fodder, cause he can now claim, "you are impeaching me for investigating Hunter Biden but even you admit Biden is corrupt"

Teachout could have said he is beholden to lobbyists...she used corrupt.

Initially I thought she misspoke, but Teachout's no fool.

Are people in the Democratic party ready to burn everything down and sabotage the nominee if Bernie doesn't win?
the only sabotage will be by the dem establishment from picking the candidate the majority of the voters want
 

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i think its laughable that the dems want to put an old white man (i thought this was a bad thing) who is more corrupt than most dems, to the right of a candidate the base didnt like last time, history of throwing out bigoted comments, and his brain is melting on stage, dudes will have that guy as their nom on some "electability:" bullshyt but then blame "bernie bros" for why the dems lost again. laughable. if biden somehow won and cut old peoples SS, Im sure "hey at least it isnt trump" is going to be so comforting. i dont get that kind of thinking
 

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I gotta ask...is there ANY concrete evidence that what that team is doing has actually hurt Bernie other than salty attacks from mainstream journalists and blue checkmark twitter? Because this dude does a ton of soap boxing about the campaign strategy considering Bernie has gained steam and survived being completely ignored by mainstream sources and than attacked constantly. But I'm to believe these people are a mess and doing a bad job?

And this isn't a defense. The apology annoys me. Sometimes Sirota oversteps and you can look at the Ben Dixon vs Briahna Gray Joy thread for how her tweets and beliefs can be twisted into an attack. But I'm completely uncertain that any of their behavior is hurting when Bernie's always been attacked in bad faith. Do they make it easier? Idk..but people often make that a bygone conclusion as if they missed how messy last election was with well know operatives running things.
 

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I gotta ask...is there ANY concrete evidence that what that team is doing has actually hurt Bernie other than salty attacks from mainstream journalists and blue checkmark twitter? Because this dude does a ton of soap boxing about the campaign strategy considering Bernie has gained steam and survived being completely ignored by mainstream sources and than attacked constantly. But I'm to believe these people are a mess and doing a bad job?

And this isn't a defense. The apology annoys me. Sometimes Sirota oversteps and you can look at the Ben Dixon vs Briahna Gray Joy thread for how her tweets and beliefs can be twisted into an attack. But I'm completely uncertain that any of their behavior is hurting when Bernie's always been attacked in bad faith. Do they make it easier? Idk..but people often make that a bygone conclusion as if they missed how messy last election was with well know operatives running things.
I don’t buy it either cause it’s coming from typical strategists whose track record is not good
 

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Bernie needs to fukking sack up and stop playing by the rules that these a$$holes aren’t even playing by. I fukking despise this bytch Hillary but she’s been consistent in how much she despises Bernie and those of us who support him. Bernie needs to stop playing nice with these shytty fukking people.
 
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I'm not tossing all this cash at Bernie, bringing him up in every political discussion offline I engage in, riding around with my bumper plastered in Bernie promotion, canvassing and whatever else I can do to help get him elected for him to keep getting his :hamster: on.

I'm not mad at the Hillary dismissal, cuz dismissing her as the bitter monumental loser that she is should be ether enough. But Bernie and/or his camp better quit with this nice guy, don't wanna step on any toes approach during the primary. The Cenk endorsement withdrawal was :why: enough for me, but this Biden shyt is pure :camby:.

How exactly does he think any of this shyt benefits him?
 
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