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This is the most optimistic I've felt about Bernie's campaign since he got in the race. I really hope we can keep this momentum going into Iowa and NH.

There seems to be a big sense of urgency erupting.

Money bombs into Bernie's campaign are going to be big to end Q4 and he will probably reach 5 million donations
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Highest favorability ratings amongst Democrats in the entire field despite what MSNBC tells you
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Polling showing a rise over the last 2 months and a rise in California
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Don't want to jinx it, but Bernie has all the ingredients to shock the Dem establishment who are severely underestimating him. Once he wins some pivotal states, the knives will come out but now that I think about it... with high favorables, a large grassroots army, it could backfire spectacularly.
 

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Don't want to jinx it, but Bernie has all the ingredients to shock the Dem establishment who are severely underestimating him. Once he wins some pivotal states, the knives will come out but now that I think about it... with high favorables, a large grassroots army, it could backfire spectacularly.

Clipping down to this one just to say, the knives started coming out in incredibly disingenuous fashion this weekend.



 

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We're now at the "we'll settle for Ted Cruz" stage of the primary. Notice how Obama has been passive aggressively shooting jab after jab at Bernie in the past month since he's been gaining. This is how dude operates.

His advisor leaks to Politico that he will intervene if Bernie starts winning, he says to stay away from left leaning twitter feeds, he says "we'd be better with women as leaders, look how bad men are at leading, old men need to get out of the way" then the next day 100 former Obama people endorse Liz. None of this is about Biden.

I'm glad it finally came out that he is hyping up Liz behind the scenes to donors because all of this is performative. I cannot wait for that coward to go and campaign against Bernie in Nevada after we run up the numbers in Iowa and NH.
 
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We're now at the "we'll settle for Ted Cruz" stage of the primary. Notice how Obama has been passive aggressively shooting jab after jab at Bernie in the past month since he's been gaining. This is how dude operates.

His advisor leaks to Politico that he will intervene if Bernie starts winning, he says to stay away from left leaning twitter feeds, he says "we'd be better with women as leaders, look how bad men are at leading, old men need to get out of the way" then the next day 100 former Obama people endorse Liz. None of this is about Biden.

I'm glad it finally came out that he is hyping up Liz behind the scenes to donors because all of this is performative. I cannot wait for that coward to go and campaign against Bernie in Nevada after we run up the numbers in Iowa and NH.

You think Obama would go out there and campaign in February? :russ:
 

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You think Obama would go out there and campaign in February? :russ:
You're right lol he'll take more passive aggressive shots in the coming weeks and leave it at that. It's different this time though cause everyone was behind Hillary and there isn't one candidate the party is behind this time.

I'm just annoyed cause this won't be the last time Team Obama leaks out a Bernie jab. I guess we'll see how real this "DNC unity" stuff is if we win Iowa/NH.
 

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We're now at the "we'll settle for Ted Cruz" stage of the primary. Notice how Obama has been passive aggressively shooting jab after jab at Bernie in the past month since he's been gaining. This is how dude operates.

His advisor leaks to Politico that he will intervene if Bernie starts winning, he says to stay away from left leaning twitter feeds, he says "we'd be better with women as leaders, look how bad men are at leading, old men need to get out of the way" then the next day 100 former Obama people endorse Liz. None of this is about Biden.

I'm glad it finally came out that he is hyping up Liz behind the scenes to donors because all of this is performative. I cannot wait for that coward to go and campaign against Bernie in Nevada after we run up the numbers in Iowa and NH.

So fukking sick of him. And whatever 'progressives' still fukk with Warren after her wishy washy ass showed her hand will certainly see Obama's support as another negative.
 

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I'm getting concerned that neither Bernie nor Warren is pulling away from each other. Gonna be really really pissed off if they split the liberal vote in Iowa and New Hampshire and allow Buttigieg or Biden to squeak through with a win. I get that they're not the same....but there's a shytload of daylight between the two of them and the Wall Street Dems.
 

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I'm getting concerned that neither Bernie nor Warren is pulling away from each other. Gonna be really really pissed off if they split the liberal vote in Iowa and New Hampshire and allow Buttigieg or Biden to squeak through with a win. I get that they're not the same....but there's a shytload of daylight between the two of them and the Wall Street Dems.
i dont think so, i think warren is fading, also i dont think warren supporters are auto going to bernie. unfortunately it seems most people dont vote based on ideology.
 

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i dont think so, i think warren is fading, also i dont think warren supporters are auto going to bernie. unfortunately it seems most people dont vote based on ideology.
Polling shows Bernie is the 2nd choice (30%) from Warren supporters as much as Biden (19%) and Buttigieg (15%) combined. That's a lot of undecideds and if Bernie was showing strength I think even more of them would shift in his direction. The last polls from Iowa a week ago had Buttigieg just 3% ahead of Bernie. If Warren dropped out, Bernie would get enough of her support to almost certainly pull into a dead heat with Buttigieg if not take the lead. In New Hampshire right now Buttigieg is 1% ahead of Biden and 3% ahead of Bernie, if Warren were to drop out it would probably be tied between the three of them.

(Of course, in both cases polling errors are larger than those margins, I'm just assuming those numbers are accurate for the sake of argument. Bernie may well already be tied with Buttigieg in both states and would in fact pull into a clear lead with a Warren dropout.)

I don't think Warren is really fading, it's just that Buttigieg's surprise rise has cut into her support a lot more than he's cut into Bernie. If Buttigieg were to fade, Warren's numbers (as well as Biden's) would tact back up to some degree. But that does show a bit of weakness as Warren probably has a much lower floor of support than Bernie or Biden do.
 

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Anti corruption resonates more with voters than any other issue. Bernie needs to lean into it more and use harsher rhetoric.
 
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