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fair enough. :manny: I know you said you wanted leave the thread but I gotta push back on the Bernie has gotten nothing done lol

Bernie had a revolutionary housing policy as mayor in Burlington that's still working to this day, him and James Clyburn provided massive funding for community health centers, he helped write some of the good parts of Obamacare and got bipartisan support for using the War Powers Act for the first time ever in 2017.

I mean he got minimum wage increases for Disney and Amazon workers without being in executive position. A former republican that's in this video linked saying Bernie passed off bills he wrote to other members so they could pass. And I don't hold it against people like Warren or Bernie for not accomplishing as much others. Our government isn't designed to let people like that to make drastic change. I mean they did call Bernie the amendment king though:jawalrus:Bernie Sanders was the roll call amendment king from 1995 to 2007
I didn't know that. Thanks :ehh:.
 

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These people are insane. :mjlol:

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These people don't use logic to realize that the people who pay you are your boss. As long as it's mainly the rich paying politicians to get them elected that's who the politicians will keep working for while ignoring the rest of us. Bernie is funded by the people and only beholden to the people.
 

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50% of the Dem primary electorate are professional class hacks. Bernie is trying to expand the electorate and the people he's securing for the Iowa caucus aren't likely voters(which are the people who get polled).

Most people don't make up their mind in Iowa until the last month. It's volatile right now. In the Iowa caucuses after the first round we can pick up Yang/Tulsi supporters once it's clear they aren't winning in the second round. Bernie lost in Iowa 2016 because some supporters left after the first round. It's not gonna happen this time as he's more organized.

There's an entire article that I'll link at the bottom but I'm going to bold the important part

The recent poll showing Biden cruising to victory at 34% nationally? Total bunk based on about 350 respondents with a 65/35 split between landlines and cell phones - and of course Sanders, who does well with young people, dominates the field if you look inside *those* numbers.

The vast majority of polls conducted in American politics are tabulated by surveying what are called "likely voters." Ok, so how do you determine if someone is a likely voter? Well, the easiest and most heavily-relied on method is to survey people who voted in the last election. In other words, for most polling companies a "likely voter" is actually just a "past voter" and while you can certainly see some logic involved in conducting polls that way, it's a methodology that is hopelessly out of step with reality in an America dominated by non-voters.

This problem is of course magnified when we're talking about a Democratic Party nomination contest because you're not just whittling down to "likely voters" but rather "likely Democratic primary voters" which are once again, mostly going to be ppl who voted in a primary last time. What about young ppl who couldn't vote in 2016? What about independents who couldn't vote in a closed Dem Primary but have since registered to vote for Sanders this time? What about ppl who'd never vote for a corporate Democrat after Obama but have come back inspired by Bernie?


Virtually none of those people are going to show up in a poll because the polling itself is based on "likely voters" and the assumption that an electorate that grows every year, will somehow remain the exact same or even shrink, compared to 2016.
This is especially problematic for Bernie Sanders because as a politician, he dominates demographics full of *un*-likely donors; young people, a jaded labor class sick of neoliberalism and war, independents, the poor, the marginalized, angry seniors who've given up on the party.


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