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King Kreole
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Of course not, the Senate as it currently stands will not pass any progressive legislation. It’s a fukked institution. Which is why support Warren. Most of her plans account for that. She’s the candidate that most understands that the executive office will have to be the primary method of enacting progressive change in this current era, and ties that to the necessary grassroots mass-movement. Top down AND bottom up.
Bernie appears to be an institutionalist, he refuses to support eradicating the filibuster and hasn’t adapted his thinking from the protest candidate of 2016 to a legitimate front-runner candidate of 2020. He rarely talks about using the executive office tools that would be at his disposal as President, instead pivoting to the “revolution” and forcing change through the fukked legislative branch.
This is unfair. They were asked two different questions. Bernie was literally asked what would he do to stop gentrification. Building more housing units does not in and of itself stop gentrification. The answer here is that both of their approaches are needed.
afterlife2009
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The problem with doing things through executive action is that you're one election away from all of your policies being reversed so your plans could be reversed before they have a chance to have their effects seen.
King Kreole
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Yep, but it's the only way to get shyt done right now in this absolutely broken system. But I'm not just talking about executive orders, I'm also talking about executive agencies. There is actually a lot of progressive action that can be taken by FTC, DOJ, HUD, HHS, DOE, Education, EPA, etc. Liz's plans incorporate these agencies. The broader progressive revolution will come whether Bernie or Liz wins, and it would be a tragic waste to cede all that executive originated progress that can reorganize society from the top down while we wait for Congress to become un-fukked.
88m3
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because the later is virtue signaling bullshyt
It's really not. The executive of any state has the right to enforce housing violations. That's like, basic government 101.
Unless you're a democrat. Then it's just virtual signaling.
88m3
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It's really not. The executive of any state has the right to enforce housing violations. That's like, basic government 101.
Unless you're a democrat. Then it's just virtual signaling.
Housing violations? I don't think that's the term you're looking for...
Unless you're stripping people of their property rights you're not going to have a say in what is built. If you're punitively blocking people from building within zoning or changing the zoning because of x that isn't going to stand up to legal challenges and or compensation.
Actually, states can enforce rent controls.
88m3
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Actually, it does. The question was about stopping gentrification generally. You made it seem like there is no legal remedy at all. But the greater point was states can actually pass laws that control how the housing market functions from a financial standpoint.
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88m3
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Not really
All the agencies and laws in NY and the taxpayers got taken for a ride with hundreds of thousands of "rent controlled" apartments lost.
They can't regulate the cost materials or land(unless they own it)
Eminent domain saw black and minorities lose untold millions in this city
I don't even want to talk about NYCHA
Bernie gave a vapid feel good response to the question and you're trying to build arguments that he didn't convey to counter arguments I didn't make.
There are legal remedies to just about about anything... when it comes to property rights and "affordable housing" they're mostly a crock of shyt. I've seen just about every ham-brained scheme the city, state, and federal government have put in action the last ten years or so in the city and it's fukking garbage. There is no magic wand.
I'm not even sure if the build more housing in greater density even applies here because the supply theoretically skyrocketed but the prices have never meaningfully decreased.
I'm not going to even start about the affordable housing lotteries and the 200% AMI "affordable housing" rentals
It's all a scam
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afterlife2009
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Not even tryna get at Warren but it's so funny seeing stuff like this while Nap and other blue check marks on Twitter have tried to astroturf her black support and it not working. where's the articles about liz's white, rich base
The State of the 2020 Democratic Primary
On the other hand, if the policies are popular and the next candidate endorses them, they will catch on and become the norm. The way things are now, any Dem who wins the presidency will have to use EAs to get things done.