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I missed the very end of this episode and will have to catch it tomorrow, but there's a duality at play here.
The message seems to be that both sides lose in these nanny-affluent exchanges.Liz (Idk what her name was, I just call white women "Liz") was stressed at the thought of not 'being their' for Bash, but the reality is she's never been. She doesn't know what he likes when he's scared, his favorite bedtime song, etc. The fact that Bash is gonna become the even lighter skinned Shawn Paul is obvious, but on the Trini side there's ol girl punching the casket and asking where was she when the kids needed her.
Cody (white boy) and Liz think 'being there' means providing the kinda lifestyle Bash has. Sylvia thought 'being there' was providing whatever life she gave for her kids from Trinidad to NYC. In the end, neither of them actually know their kids. They weren't providing is not the same as presence.
All that said, this SERIOUSLY Paper Boi's birthday so wtf happened
we better have fukkery related to that next week 
The message seems to be that both sides lose in these nanny-affluent exchanges.Liz (Idk what her name was, I just call white women "Liz") was stressed at the thought of not 'being their' for Bash, but the reality is she's never been. She doesn't know what he likes when he's scared, his favorite bedtime song, etc. The fact that Bash is gonna become the even lighter skinned Shawn Paul is obvious, but on the Trini side there's ol girl punching the casket and asking where was she when the kids needed her.
Cody (white boy) and Liz think 'being there' means providing the kinda lifestyle Bash has. Sylvia thought 'being there' was providing whatever life she gave for her kids from Trinidad to NYC. In the end, neither of them actually know their kids. They weren't providing is not the same as presence.
All that said, this SERIOUSLY Paper Boi's birthday so wtf happened
we better have fukkery related to that next week Yup. That’s basically her son. We can even say a piece of her spirit is in him.
Moral of the story, be in your kid’s life
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Nah, can't call this one filler. This has been going on with Black and white folks for way too long.
raised their son and kept the house in order only for them to see her death as an inconvenience to them and her traditions as a problem
Even though the overall theme of the episode was pretty basic (How black culture is subtly filtered into the White community in a way that ultimately manifests in appreciation without understanding) the execution was INCREDIBLE. I can see why this would be one of the episodes that Donald Glover would want to personally helm.
That final shot really brought it home. White kids desperately want to be black because their parents allow them to be RAISED within black culture, all the way back to slavery and the mammy days. Bash wanted to go to the funeral because he had an appreciation for Sylvia’s culture and wanted to UNDERSTAND it. If his parents hadn’t have taken him it would have led to his appreciation turning into APPROPRIATION. The casting of Chet Hanks (which in itself was BRILLIANT meta commentary) drove that point home.
It also again, ties into the "black fairytale" concept that is this season's connective tissue. Young children like Bash, being positively influenced by elements of black culture, will grow up without the ingrained racism, fear, and loathing OF that culture which will in turn lead to better relations between white and black. The "older" generation is paying reparations and the "younger" generation are living without the effects of that "curse" effecting them.
Brilliant brilliant episode. I thought that “The Big Payback” was flawless but THIS one is on another level
That final shot really brought it home. White kids desperately want to be black because their parents allow them to be RAISED within black culture, all the way back to slavery and the mammy days. Bash wanted to go to the funeral because he had an appreciation for Sylvia’s culture and wanted to UNDERSTAND it. If his parents hadn’t have taken him it would have led to his appreciation turning into APPROPRIATION. The casting of Chet Hanks (which in itself was BRILLIANT meta commentary) drove that point home.
It also again, ties into the "black fairytale" concept that is this season's connective tissue. Young children like Bash, being positively influenced by elements of black culture, will grow up without the ingrained racism, fear, and loathing OF that culture which will in turn lead to better relations between white and black. The "older" generation is paying reparations and the "younger" generation are living without the effects of that "curse" effecting them.
Brilliant brilliant episode. I thought that “The Big Payback” was flawless but THIS one is on another level
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Nah, can't call this one filler. This has been going on with Black and white folks for way too long.
Yup. In Manhattan, a bunch of black nannies walking these white kids.
Gramercy, Central Park, etc
Yeah notice how the camera pans to the empty chair when Bash says “good night Sylvia” it reminded me of the Sixth Sense.
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Ma dukes wasn’t a nanny but she did have to clean white folks houses for us to get byNah, can't call this one filler. This has been going on with Black and white folks for way too long.
And that was in the 80s in Arkansas
As a kid I didn’t understand why she always had to go clean up but as I got older she explained it to me
So many black kids had to grow up with their parents gone majority of the time
(Consider yourself lucky if you had two parents in the household)
So it does leave you with a feeling like sis who got up at the funeral
Having to unpack that in therapy and stop being angry at her for all the missed choir performances, football games, etc
It did make me feel like she didn’t care but it’s the furthest thing from the truth
Then you look at white kids and all the things they are afforded but still come out fukked up because their parents had the choice to be in their lives
But chose money over the connection to their children
That resentment juxtaposition
Chet represented that + the since of belonging
Until lil Chet got spooked
White women are/where the biggest purveyors of bigotry and racism
It was okay for black women to clean your house and watch your kids
But you were too good to actually partake in knowing that persons life
The dad running to rap music
She had a Telfair handbag
Indoctrinated in black culture only on the surface level but can’t relate nor see us as actual human beings
That’s why that family picture day shyt hit so hard
She was the only one there for that boy and the mom knew she wasn’t shyt
And she has all the luxury in the world to raise that child while Sylvia was just trying to make a way for hers
This is the dichotomy/two America’s
And that Chinese nanny shyt should hit different for Asians as well
No matter how much they try to assimilate to white culture
They are still seen as the “help” even though as a group
They are outpacing white folks in wealth
Yea one could say “it’s about business”
But that’s coded language like a mofo
This white lady carrying a Telfar bag to a BLACK funeral
ReppedMa dukes wasn’t a nanny but she did have to clean white folks houses for us to get by
And that was in the 80s in Arkansas
As a kid I didn’t understand why she always had to go clean up but as I got older she explained it to me
So many black kids had to grow up with their parents gone majority of the time
(Consider yourself lucky if you had two parents in the household)
So it does leave you with a feeling like sis who got up at the funeral
Having to unpack that in therapy and stop being angry at her for all the missed choir performances, football games, etc
It did make me feel like she didn’t care but it’s the furthest thing from the truth
Then you look at white kids and all the things they are afforded but still come out fukked up because their parents had the choice to be in their lives
But chose money over the connection to their children
That resentment juxtaposition
Chet represented that + the since of belonging
Until lil Chet got spooked
White women are/where the biggest purveyors of bigotry and racism
It was okay for black women to clean your house and watch your kids
But you were too good to actually partake in knowing that persons life
The dad running to rap music
She had a Telfair handbag
Indoctrinated in black culture only on the surface level but can’t relate nor see us as actual human beings
That’s why that family picture day shyt hit so hard
She was the only one there for that boy and the mom knew she wasn’t shyt
And she has all the luxury in the world to raise that child while Sylvia was just trying to make a way for hers
This is the dichotomy/two America’s
And that Chinese nanny shyt should hit different for Asians as well
No matter how much they try to assimilate to white culture
They are still seen as the “help” even though as a group
They are outpacing white folks in wealth
Yea one could say “it’s about business”
But that’s coded language like a mofo