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yeah but the wingman is a pistol. if you're bringing in machine guns with epic attachments.. something has gone wrong.

look at the other pistols.. they don't even come close.

on pc, it's not that hard to fight with a wingman at range, jiggle peeking and hitting headshots. and you can fight against every other gun without feeling underpowered.

and if you have limited ammo.. a wingman with 30 bullets >>> almost every other gun with 30 bullets.

the problem with "git gud" weapons is that once players actually get good, it's overpowered.
Then get good with r301 because that sit is better
 

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It's not just shroud saying it. Everyone is saying it. I can't believe some are actually arguing that it isn't overpowered. It absolutely is. Maybe it's not as big of a problem on console but on PC even above average players using it can absolutely destroy you. I'm not saying it needs a massive nerf, but it absolutely needs tweaking.
Yeaaa, this is one of those balancing issues that might need to be addressed separately for console and PC
 

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It's not just shroud saying it. Everyone is saying it. I can't believe some are actually arguing that it isn't overpowered. It absolutely is. Maybe it's not as big of a problem on console but on PC even above average players using it can absolutely destroy you. I'm not saying it needs a massive nerf, but it absolutely needs tweaking.
How is something that is 6th fastest time to kill to body overpowered? If shroud said Mozambique was OP everyone would follow. That's the power of the internet. Watch shroud with the r301 and see how fast people drop. Theirs like 0 recoil on that shyt..
 

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Then get good with r301 because that sit is better

on pc, players pop heads. maybe on console it's not as big an issue.

the wingman does more headshot damage than every ar, lmg and smg except the hemlok.

and it has almost NO drawback. no recoil, no slow rate of fire, it even reloads fast. then it can take the extended mag, skullpiercer and digital threat.

it's a revolver :mindblown:
 

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on pc, players pop heads. maybe on console it's not as big an issue.

the wingman does more headshot damage than every ar, lmg and smg except the hemlok.

and it has almost NO drawback. no recoil, no slow rate of fire, it even reloads fast. then it can take the extended mag, skullpiercer and digital threat.

it's a revolver :mindblown:
What's the problem exactly? If everyone can equip it the fukk are you talking about? You can tell most people have low iq..
 

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What's the problem exactly? If everyone can equip it the fukk are you talking about? You can tell most people have low iq..

are you new to weapon balancing?

everyone being able to equip it has nothing to do with how good a weapon is.

compare the weapon to the other weapons in its class. how does the wingman compare to the other pistols? can you even name the other pistols?
 

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I just tried this shyt out cause I keep hearing about it and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. The three matches I played, my whole squad got wiped before I could even find a weapon and the tutorial was complete shyt at explaining how the game works.

This shyt might not be for me.

:francis:
 

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are you new to weapon balancing?

everyone being able to equip it has nothing to do with how good a weapon is.

compare the weapon to the other weapons in its class. how does the wingman compare to the other pistols? can you even name the other pistols?
You know how stupid you sound?
Compare the r301 to other ars
Compare the r99 to other smgs
 

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I just tried this shyt out cause I keep hearing about it and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. The three matches I played, my whole squad got wiped before I could even find a weapon and the tutorial was complete shyt at explaining how the game works.

This shyt might not be for me.

:francis:
Took me a couple days to find my method. You’ll like it if you stick with it. Find a squad you can play with is the biggest tip for new players
 

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You know how stupid you sound?
Compare the r301 to other ars
Compare the r99 to other smgs

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the numbers look fine. maybe some are better than the others but they're in the same range.

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oh look the wingman does 5x more than the other pistols. or we can discuss how a shotgun pistol headshot does 2/3 damage of the wingman.

look at the wingman numbers compared to all the other guns then. it stands out.
 

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ecxmm9q.jpg


the numbers look fine. maybe some are better than the others but they're in the same range.

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oh look the wingman does 5x more than the other pistols. or we can discuss how a shotgun pistol headshot does 2/3 damage of the wingman.

look at the wingman numbers compared to all the other guns then. it stands out.


:snoop:

This is how you determine damage
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/vEHHppA
 
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