Official 2021 Oscars Thread

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Ziggiy said:
If Joe was inspired by his father to play Jazz and that was his passion then he should have been given the chance to experience that euphoria when he finally got what he’d been working for his entire life. Instead it felt “Hollow”. Why? Because apparently he didn’t understand the meaning of “life”? Black men pursuing dreams and WANTING to have a purpose. Something to aspire to, is an issue? He actually ENDS the movie with no idea whatsoever what he wants out of life. fukk that
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I disagree with that homie. For me, the movie said he didn’t do much living. And he didn’t. Joe was a miserable dude most of the time and ignored everything for one goal. Most artists who live like that aren’t happy. They end up shytty and mad at the world and holding grievances on pretty much everything and towards everyone.


I didn’t take it as he had no idea what he wanted. But that he would finally allow himself to enjoy what was going on and enjoy his life rather than judging everyone without knowing them or not seeing the bigger picture. I think that’s a good message to give to anyone because it’s about being well adjusted.

My dad spent most of his life trying to achieve different goals. And he got most of them. But he realized a couple years ago he doesn’t know who he is or what he likes outside of work. He was always so focused on the job that he missed his life and he always says he wants to enjoy life and what’s in front of him because he missed out on so damn much for too long.
 
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MartyMcFly said:
I disagree with that homie. For me, the movie said he didn’t do much living. And he didn’t. Joe was a miserable dude most of the time and ignored everything for one goal. Most artists who live like that aren’t happy. They end up shytty and mad at the world and holding grievances on pretty much everything and towards everyone.


I didn’t take it as he had no idea what he wanted. But that he would finally allow himself to enjoy what was going on and enjoy his life rather than judging everyone without knowing them or not seeing the bigger picture. I think that’s a good message to give to anyone because it’s about being well adjusted.
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Taking your Father out of the equation I disagree that the movie didn’t show him living life


Black men do not need to be told that our aspirations need to be set aside so we can enjoy a slice of fukking pizza. Hell even Joe understood this. Its not like he was some recluse living in his mother’s house sitting at the Piano all day. He had a job. He had friends. HIS teachings inspired others to follow their own dreams. So him working on the side to realize his own aspirations is the problem? That is complete and utter bullshyt.

The truth of the matter is that black men having goals is a GOOD thing. Defining your own purpose or “calling”, working towards that dream (whilst still living responsibly) and never giving up is something all black men would be blessed to have. The pursuit of goals ADDS value to black life. It shouldn’t take away from it. It wasn’t like Joe’s father was on some Joe Jackson shyt and FORCED Jazz upon him. He genuinely loved playing jazz. He loved the music. He loved having the opportunity to realize a dream he had WORKED towards and the movie robbed him of that.


Also don’t get me started on 22

She STOLE his body. Refused to give it back because all of a sudden after experiencing humanity she liked “living”. And at the end Joe was literally willing to be Bojangles to her Shirley Temple and escort her back to earth while he tap danced his way to the “Beyond”:gucci: Magical negro shyt if ever i’ve seen it.
 
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