Official 2020 Democratic Primary Debate Thread

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Yep, Abrams is solid in my book. I've kept quiet on the Bloomberg stuff with regards to her because I'm still mulling over the priorities...I think voter suppression is a massive threat, so pulling in a massive donation to fight it isn't exactly something I could just swat away and be upset about. Plus, I think she hits all the bases that would comfort moderate voters while being better than most other options. :yeshrug:
Agreed. I think Bloomberg is a scumbag, but he didn't seem to change her when she ran for office. Now that she isn't, run up the check on his ass. He can afford it.

Voter suppression is an existential threat if there's any hope of making progress in this country it has to be addressed and defeated.
 

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Agreed. I think Bloomberg is a scumbag, but he didn't seem to change her when she ran for office. Now that she isn't, run up the check on his ass. He can afford it.

Voter suppression is an existential threat if there's any hope of making progress in this country it has to be addressed and defeated.
Her comments on Bloomberg were very shytty, but i'm :mjlol: at twitter left trying to cancel her, these people aren't serious about governing
 

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Agreed. I think Bloomberg is a scumbag, but he didn't seem to change her when she ran for office. Now that she isn't, run up the check on his ass. He can afford it.

Voter suppression is an existential threat if there's any hope of making progress in this country it has to be addressed and defeated.

Co-sign all of this fam. Threading the needle between principles and being strategic is challenging but it shouldn't be impossible. Abrams' rhetorical spin to get that paycheck is what it is and I didn't think of it as damaging to any of my lefty goals. If she's sticking to the more important goals, I'm willing to make concessions to keep her in the mix and influential. Maybe she'll prove me wrong, but I see a valuable ally and I'll give her the space to work as long as she's not actively disrupting my policy goals (something that I think Bloomberg and Pete do at times).

And 1000% agree on voter suppression. I think that fight may be more important than one seat or one admin role, so if she's doing well in that fight than it could pay with many more people winning elections and moving us in the right direction. I feel like it gets downplayed a bit (hacking and rigging overtaking the conversation when suppression is blatantly out there).
 

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Bruh. I'm hurt.

I went to see my dad at his apartment (old ppl subsidized housing) and his neighbor walked by to throw out the trash...

He asked me if I voted and I said no..I didn't know we could.

He said he did his by mail (he was eager about it)

I asked you went with Bloomberg?! (Feigning excitement)

He was very happy to say that he did and was gonna tell that that I should too.

These fukking ads are dominating the old people man.

They're too susceptible to this shyt.

My dad's still on his wait and see Bernie b Bloomberg thing. But who knows how many of these old mufukkas already fell for Mike
 

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Bruh. I'm hurt.

I went to see my dad at his apartment (old ppl subsidized housing) and his neighbor walked by to throw out the trash...

He asked me if I voted and I said no..I didn't know we could.

He said he did his by mail (he was eager about it)

I asked you went with Bloomberg?! (Feigning excitement)

He was very happy to say that he did and was gonna tell that that I should too.

These fukking ads are dominating the old people man.

They're too susceptible to this shyt.

My dad's still on his wait and see Bernie b Bloomberg thing. But who knows how many of these old mufukkas already fell for Mike
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Just an example of a Coli leftist saying Abrams should be VP.

I was told no Coli leftist proposed such a thing. I guess these guys aren't Coli leftists either.







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So I said she was suggested as a compromise pick. You found literally one person in there propping her up in a way that contradicted that. Everyone else suggested her as a compromise. Now why don’t you post those entire back and forth? We know why, you’re a disingenuous fukk. I find it funny that the same group of weirdos dap each other up. It’s like I see that @wire28 dapped you up and I know that I’m in for some bullshyt. You’re really over here stretching reaalllllly far to make it seem like Abrams was a leftist champion.

I see why @Mephistopheles put you on ignore. There’s no reasoning with someone like you with a weird ass vendetta. No one is against Abrams fighting voter suppression. No one would take issue with what @storyteller just said. You guys literally spend all day finding the same 8 people to be mad at and that shyt is annoying. You attribute this false maximalist position to anyone opposed to you and then argue against that without any nuance. I only comment because I wish you would all shut the fukk up for all our sakes but the best approach is to just ignore you I guess.

My fault, I gave you too much credit. I’ll just toss you all on ignore.
 

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Lmaooo ayo Bernie now polling at 31 percent nationally

LMAO

Aaaaaaaaaah nikkas in here pontificating about purity tests and Stacy Abrams and all other irrelevant topics my nikka

Bernie gaining momentum wow and these nikkas stopped supporting Warren and Biden and now you have these cryptocacs running the “Bloomberg isn’t bad” playbook :laff:

They all low key would prefer Trump to Sanders
 

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How do you tell someone your ignoring them? Are you a virgin? 12 years old? Like I can't even fathom how intellectually fragile and immature one would have to be to not only ignore someone because "I don't like what they're telling me"...but to be such a bytch that I would have to let them know I'm doing it. "On some nah nah nah boo boo I'm not listening to you shyt."

It's crazy...I can't really think of another type of action one could take on a message board outside of certain types shock posting that says so much about the true character of the actual individual. Like think about how you sound jesus christ.
 

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Yep, Abrams is solid in my book. I've kept quiet on the Bloomberg stuff with regards to her because I'm still mulling over the priorities...I think voter suppression is a massive threat, so pulling in a massive donation to fight it isn't exactly something I could just swat away and be upset about. Plus, I think she hits all the bases that would comfort moderate voters while being better than most other options. :yeshrug:
So in other words, she’s a solid moderate concession, which is what I told him any leftist said. Aight, cool. His definition of “reasonable” is agreeing with him on something. He is a pedantic poster.

Abrams might be able to bring out more black voters (maybe) but what evidence is there of her appeal to “moderates? In 2018 she did well by winning 94 percent of the black vote in a state where black people are 31 percent of the population. She lost white voters by a margin of over 50 points. She barely won suburban voters off the strength of black suburbs but those aren’t the types of suburbs Democrats need to win the election. She wasn’t even in the ball park with rural voters. At best Abrams outperformed Hillary Clinton by 3 points in a year where Democrats were energized and Trump wasn’t on the ballot. I’m not convinced.
 
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