Official 2020 Democratic Primary Debate Thread

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Which private health insurance plan currently offers more benefits and pays for longer stays in the hospital?



Exactly, he's talking as though private health insurance plans don't tell people every day that they aren't covered for certain procedures leaving people with "good" health insurance plans with major medical bills that cause them to go bankrupt.


You know why your point is bullshyt, because a) this is currently happening with private insurance and b) the rich people and politicians who will be covered by the same plan won't let it happen. The second that a congressman's wife or kid gets sick and those limitations in coverage are seen the plan will be improved because it doesn't just affect poor people. That's why Medicare for all is better than a public option, everyone would want the system to be the best that it can because it affects them too, whereas a public option would just affect the poor.

If you can show me one private health insurance plan that covers more than what is covered in the Medicare for all bill in the senate then I'll concede the debate.

If one exists, it damn sure isn't accessible to the overwhelming majority of people living in this country. Like the point has been made a thousand times over, just because something is available doesn't mean it's available to YOU. This dude is really up here trying to shovel this bullshyt about medicare for all being worse because of regulations that would limit the amount of days insurance pays for hospital stays. I'm a fukking nurse, I literally get paid to take care of people who get kicked out of hospitals or have been fukked over by insurance companies, NOW. That shyt is routine practice in our current system.

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It's depressing to see that as we get further into the debates, they look more and more like who's running for class president rather than who is running for president of the country. That is largely due to there only being a handful or less of the candidates who have any real agenda or plans. Instead of us being able to focus on those nuances we get crippled with 2 hours of forced ideology from various people "pandering to the room", for lack of a better analogy, and responses to those rantings.

I feel like polling standards should have gotten even more aggressive after the second debate. This is obviously a 3 person race but I agree with others that a field of 5 max should have been the goal for the 3rd debate and a field of 3 should be the goal for the 4th.
 

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this wasn't ...the best move.

Rahm is at the end of the day, a democrat who brings in money.

A lot of democrats depend on him to eat.

Its good for likes and retweets but other than that it doesn't translate into real world change.

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Shut the fukk up. You are such an idiot it’s not even funny. You don’t know about Rahm’s “real world change” His change includes closing dozens of schools/mental health facilities in poor communities and diverting that money towards shyt like a new college basketball arena and other corporate welfare shyt, expanding gentrification, raising taxes that affected poor and middle class, closing the city environment department which has lead to an lead increase in tap water, his complete failure at lowering the cities unemployment rate, and a shyt ton of other things. Emmanuel is a joke who had a run off against an unknown community activist and didn’t even bother running after that because he knew he would get washed. He couldn’t even kiss up to Trump correctly. There’s a reason he’s another talking head on TV
 
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Bruh I'm still tripping over the Bernie vs Biden exchange.

Bernie: We pay 2x per capita more for health care than any other major country

Biden: This is America

How did he not get fukking buried for this bullshyt.
just another one of his senior moments.

i don't think he knows what per capita means.



anyway after sleeping on it, i think we're gonna end up with a liz vs. kamala final two.

i'ma still ride with bernie til the wheels fall off tho. :mjgrin:
 

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Honestly you might get hurt again this Sunday night when we go up against Wentz :mjcry:
I started Cam yesterday...the L is already ensured...hopefully the Pats ( I can't believe I'm rooting for them to do well :snoop:) put the Dolphins through a table so I can salvage week 2

But back to politics....real shyt I'm kinda done with these debates

It's going to be some combination of Biden, Bernie, and Warren.

We might not like it, but this is what this country is and as I said before, if Trump secures a deal with China between now and next summer, it's a WRAP.

These idiots will vote for him hook line and sinker while him and the GOP continue to put their feet further up their asses
 

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just another one of his senior moments.

i don't think he knows what per capita means.



anyway after sleeping on it, i think we're gonna end up with a liz vs. kamala final two.

i'ma still ride with bernie til the wheels fall off tho. :mjgrin:
Kamala can barely fund her campaign right now. Her only hope is if the southern states all choose her and she takes Cali.
 

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Kamala can barely fund her campaign right now. Her only hope is if the southern states all choose her and she takes Cali.
yeah.


all of those things are very possible, especially the more biden gets exposed.

this shyt is never coming down to a warren vs. sanders scenario. there is always gonna be a great centrist hope. she's polling well in SC.
 

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Which private health insurance plan currently offers more benefits and pays for longer stays in the hospital?



Exactly, he's talking as though private health insurance plans don't tell people every day that they aren't covered for certain procedures leaving people with "good" health insurance plans with major medical bills that cause them to go bankrupt.


You know why your point is bullshyt, because a) this is currently happening with private insurance and b) the rich people and politicians who will be covered by the same plan won't let it happen. The second that a congressman's wife or kid gets sick and those limitations in coverage are seen the plan will be improved because it doesn't just affect poor people. That's why Medicare for all is better than a public option, everyone would want the system to be the best that it can because it affects them too, whereas a public option would just affect the poor.

If you can show me one private health insurance plan that covers more than what is covered in the Medicare for all bill in the senate then I'll concede the debate.


Gladly. Medicare advantage vs Medicare.

Medigap vs. Medicare Advantage: Which Saves You More Money?

How Original Medicare, Medicare Advantage differ | bcbsm.com


Commercial vs Medicare.
Is Medicare’s coverage as good as my employer-sponsored insurance?

Keep the questions coming. I have all day to teach you the actual facts about healthcare today.

You say I’m lying, but literally everything you’re posting is 100% unequivocally wrong. Ppl like u are the ones pushing the false narrative.
 
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yeah.


all of those things are very possible, especially the more biden gets exposed.

this shyt is never coming down to a warren vs. sanders scenario. there is always gonna be a great centrist hope. she's polling well in SC.
I don't see it personally, she's solidly in 4th and isn't polling near Bernie with minorities. It would take a massive Biden and Bernie collapse on Super Tuesday for her to make it to that point. And some rich donor to windfall her ground game. But it can happen and someone and the donor money has to be there when Biden collapses (I'm thinking around December at this rate, he can barely speak without rambling).
 
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