Official 2020 Democratic Primary Debate Thread

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I wouldn't even call it pragmatism. Old people go where the money and established careers are. Walk around NY right now and ask old black folks what Hillary did during her Senate bid and you'd get a bunch of ye shrugs, but they all know Bill opened up that office in Harlem.

They all think the 90s economy was because of Bill.

You're talking about generations of folks who never had access to the actual statistics behind policy analysis. Old black folks stay doing their own 90s MAGA shyt because they only watch MSNBC.

Breh, if you are going to ask 99% of Americans what any senator did in Congress, you are going to get nothing but yeshrugs. Outside of Obamacare, the Iraq vote and the early 90s crime bill, and a few other huge pieces of legislation, no one is going to know anyones congressional record. Who are the people that are basing their vote based on statistical analysis of policy? Even most college graduates are not well versed in that type of data analysis.
 

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Been arguing for this since the beginning of the race. Bernie and Warren should be riding with each other





Name a single candidate that Black voters actually like better than Bernie.

The only one polling higher is Biden, and he has the worst history and least pro-Black policies of the whole group. Literally the only shyt he has going for him is that he was Obama's VP and a lot of Black folk are scared that Trump can't be beat unless Dems nominate someone who's damn near halfway to him.



Biden is so far ahead in polling with black voters that second place is comical, look breh it aint that serious i was making a joke :unimpressed:




Bernie stans should be more worried about warren stealing his shine if you ask me:unimpressed: this aint 2016 yall not gonna like the next few months :unimpressed:
 

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He got elected because Bush fukked up so bad at...everything...

Like...you left out the part where his white predecessor ushered in the biggest financial crisis of our generation...

That's what it takes to get a non white male in the white house...a financial fukkup of historical proportions...

Yeah, you're right man, there's just no chance that we're ever again gonna have a president as bad as Bush.

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I thought Obama was this awful person that we all must repudiate?

That's what people are saying on here
Not really sure what play you're trying to make here. Someone can say that Obama's policies weren't good for the Black community and still point out that getting an Obama endorsement is politically helpful.
 
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the craziest shyt about Warren/Sanders is that many of their supporters are NOT the same people. It's only a matter of time before these people figure out "wait a minute.. my candidate is falling off but there's another progressive to choose from"

the progressive agenda starting to look viable out here :ohhh:
 

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Not really sure what play you're trying to make here. Someone can say that Obama's policies weren't good for the Black community and still point out that getting an Obama endorsement is politically helpful.

Obama is routinely described as far more insidious, intentionally cruel even and perhaps a tyrant to some but Sanders and Harris are using him as their prop in their Medicare for All push....

It's confusing...


I appreciated the ACA, the Fair Sentencing Act, and a host of other things Obama was able to accomplish they had a positive impact on my life.


I don't know, seems like a mixed message to be sending
 

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Obama is routinely described as far more insidious, intentionally cruel even and perhaps a tyrant to some but Sanders and Harris are using him as their prop in their Medicare for All push....

It's confusing...


I appreciated the ACA, the Fair Sentencing Act, and a host of other things Obama was able to accomplish they had a positive impact on my life.


I don't know, seems like a mixed message to be sending

Which one of Sanders or Harris has ever described Obama as any of those things?

Even if they believed those things about him secretly, they'd still pragmatically acknowledge his popularity and use it to their advantage. Like I said before, on a "Even Reagan supported amnesty so what's wrong with you" wave.

Seems like you're trying to shoehorn in a point that's not there. They didn't even praise Obama, just used him to their own ends.
 

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There are at least 5 people running that are better candidates than Hillary & Kerry. Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you can't find a candidate to back in this deep field.
Warren gonna lose for being a pacifist
Sanders gonna lose for being a socialist
Biden don't have the stamina
Kamela gonna lose for ironically being too black
Booker a gay egg head

Only one I trust is tulsi
 

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There are threads dedicated to why Tulsi is a pos you're welcome to read them again.

You fond over authoritarians and think Russia didn't interfere in our elections. Why should anyone take you seriously or care about your opinions?

Yang is a lolbertarian supply side grifter
Oh there are threads?! A thread on the coli is gospel? Got it. :mjlol:
I've never expressed a liking for any authoritarians you are lying. :hhh:
My dap to post ratio is fine with me. :mjgrin: So stop acting like you are an authority on who is and isn't a worthwhile poster. You spend most of your time co-signing Nap. Look in the mirror before trying to judge others. :scust:
And look you acted like you were above replying to me one post ago and I got you to reverse that with like 5 words. I rule you. :mjlol:
 

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Sigh.

When you hop on the Coli for a nuanced Black POV of the debates and immediately see Harris is a bedwench, Booker is a zesty sellout and Biden is racist takes...

:snooze:


Where else you gonna get this level of high quality discourse :shaq:


Nothing like a coli live thread, real issues mixed in with fukkery and asking for tulsi nudes :russ::ohlawd:
 
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