Official 2020 Democratic Primary Debate Thread

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According to people with businesses esp small ones.

Yang was a CEO of his own non profit. His book talks about the burden that paying premiums is on the business.

My barber here in MD with a functioning ACA exchange can’t give healthcare to his employees any longer cause the premiums are so high. He said he’d rather pay a Tax and have universal healthcare. But premiums are a private tax on top of the public taxes we all pay.

If you had just a flat employer tax for a Medicare for all system, businesses would save money.

There are markets where insurers are a monopoly and jacking up premiums. It’s not sustainable.

Right...and the premiums are high because healthcare is designed to make money...

I'm someone who thinks all this talk about cheaper healthcare is a pipe dream...because all those things go against the fundamental reason as to why healthcare exist in america...which is to make money...

Premiums are high because that is how you make profit...which is what healthcare is designed to do...

And then it is the "to high" argument...

Is it legit to high that he can't pay it?

Or is it to high that he can't pay it AND make the profits he wants from his own business?

One of them is a valid complaint and the other one is just...capitalist greed...
 

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Yeah, I know her and Bernie are cool but I didn't know she had a relationship with Biden. :leon:
She doesn't but I believe that's her goal and she sees who the front runners are. If she can't actually get to a spot to compete she can always be the attack dog to opposition like Kamala. Tulsi has been making moves since leaving the DNC for Bernie and speaking with Trump officials.
 

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So Yang is proposing loans of $12,000 a year per eligible adult?

Bruh :stopitslime::stopitslime::stopitslime::stopitslime:

You said UBI would lead to higher prices and lower purchasing power of the dollar. That is unlikely seeing as right now the Fed can’t hit the 2% inflation target it’s been trying to hit for months even with rates at basehead levels. Even with record breaking easing over the last ten years. In your scenario if prices of goods ever shot up, the Fed would just increase interest rates. This would make depositors want to invest their money to take advantage of the returns instead of spending it. The higher rates would also stop consumers from taking out loans for consumer products and businesses from taking out loans for their businesses as they wouldn’t want to pay the higher rates. These three things would reduce the amount of money in the economy chasing the same goods, and thus slowing prices from rising too fast.
 

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I was reading his healthcare plan and surprised for a corporate dem

Slate’s Use of Your Data
Here’s the funny thing about all this: Delaney’s own health care proposal is not actually all that moderate, except in comparison to full-bore, Sanders-style single-payer. Under his plan, all Americans under 65 would enroll in a basic government insurance plan that more or less includes Obamacare’s essential health benefits (Medicaid would be merged into this program). Individuals and companies could then buy supplemental insurance that covered additional services. Medicare for seniors would remain untouched.

One thing you might notice about this approach is that, despite Delaney’s debate stage rhetoric, it would actually create a lot of upheaval in the insurance market, and require pretty much everybody with an employer-sponsored plan to change their coverage in some way. A second thing you might notice is that it is far to the left of what Hillary Clinton proposed in 2016. Her big move to appease progressives that year involved backing a public health insurance option for the Obamacare exchanges. Ambitious? Sure. But much less so than the bona fide national health care plan Delaney, an annoying middle-of-the-road squish, is envisioning.
 

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I was reading his healthcare plan and surprised for a corporate dem

Slate’s Use of Your Data
Here’s the funny thing about all this: Delaney’s own health care proposal is not actually all that moderate, except in comparison to full-bore, Sanders-style single-payer. Under his plan, all Americans under 65 would enroll in a basic government insurance plan that more or less includes Obamacare’s essential health benefits (Medicaid would be merged into this program). Individuals and companies could then buy supplemental insurance that covered additional services. Medicare for seniors would remain untouched.

One thing you might notice about this approach is that, despite Delaney’s debate stage rhetoric, it would actually create a lot of upheaval in the insurance market, and require pretty much everybody with an employer-sponsored plan to change their coverage in some way. A second thing you might notice is that it is far to the left of what Hillary Clinton proposed in 2016. Her big move to appease progressives that year involved backing a public health insurance option for the Obamacare exchanges. Ambitious? Sure. But much less so than the bona fide national health care plan Delaney, an annoying middle-of-the-road squish, is envisioning.
 
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