Offical Thread : Klitschko vs Joshua April 29 : Somebody bout to get dey ass Koed in fronna 90,000.

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Some casual people got mad on social media saying that if Wlad would be 27 he would have beaten Joshua

well firstly he is not 27 :russ:

secondly these people forget, or rather have no clue about Wlad was exactly 27 years old when Corrie Sanders KTFO him and one year later Lamon Brewster also KTFO him, so the 27-29 old Wlad was pretty far from the prime Wlad. Prime Wlad dated from 2007-08 until 2014 for me. So the first 6-7 years of his 30s.
We gonna see how much upside Joshua has compared to his current form but I think he is less fragile at the age of 27 than Wlad was when he was 27.
 

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I ain't really been in to boxing like that since like ortiz/May but watched this last night cuz I got to support joshua but correct me of I'm wrong but is someone that supposedly the next big thing suppose to have dips like that against a 41 year old on the decline?

At the start of the 5th he just started bulldozing vlad like he had a bus to catch then he gassed himself and that's when the fight started. Just didn't see any composure or finesse to what he was doing. Glad he got the TKO but it turned into a war which it shouldn't have. Tyson fury must be licking his chops
That was his biggest mistake imo.

He blitzed Wlad uncontrollably, gassed himself out, got put down, then spent like the next 3 rounds trying to recover his stamina.

Wlad did go down but noticed how composed Wlad was sfter he put Joshua down. He was trying not to gas himself

After the second knockdown he was much more compsed imo, and despite missing some shots he wasn't wild or blitzing like that at all. He was aggressive but his punches were still tight to me, still flurries in spots and not crazy
 

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Those punches didn't matter...the fight was already over & stopped by the referee at that point:manny:
It might not matter when he's fighting nobodies but it would matter against other dangerous fighters.

And he said it himself he needs to work on it but he likes doing wild shyt. Doesnt matter to me if the fight is damn near over, doing stupid shyt against good fighters is how you get dropped
 

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in good taste i guess
 

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Simply put... Wilder isn't technically sound enough for me to pick him. Dude struggled with Gerald Washington and was probably down on the cards before knocking him out.

Its only so long that a fighter can survive like that.

At the end of the day.....he still KOd Washington in 5 rounds, in his 1st fight coming back off surgery to his right hand & bicep muscle.

The "struggle" is greatly exaggerated...almost to the point of Kell Brook/GGG proportions:hubie:
 

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A negative on Wilder is throwing punches and forcing a stoppage, a negative isn't on Joshua for throwing wild and forcing a stoppage.

SMH.

Its not realistic or valid criticism, if Washington was in a position to fire back and did fire back you would have a point, but the man literally doesn't do this until the fighter is ready to go. So when you tell me he is wild as fukk in fights, and you expect me to take that as a legit criticism but you literally can't show any examples outside of the end of fights where he gets stoppages, you leave me with no choice to say its just blind hate.

As for using his jab, he was gettign better and better, but last fight after the lay off is the first fight I've seen him in where he couldn't get his jab off. He used it beautifully against Stiverne as well as the left hook off the jab.

He hasn't fought anyone on the level of Wlad that lost to Tyson Fury and struggled against Bryan Jennings, that a world beater right ther. LOL.


And despite Wlad losing to Fury and struggling against Jennings, Wilder STILL hasn't fought anybody as good as that

Thanks for making my point. Swinging wild against bums and swinging wild against someone like Wlad who even at 43 years old is smart enough to wether the storm and comeback in the same round and knockdown your wild ass is 2 totally different things.

I know you seem to be upset because I CRITICIZED your nikka on some shyt he needs to work on, but you defending wild and sloppy boxing because homie is finishing bums with it is the same as defending UFC fighters when they do wild and sloppy boxing to finish an opponent to me.

Youre only as good as you come up against and that shyt is a weakness that works against weakass heavyweights.

And I didn't show you any examples because I didn't go look for any examples
 

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And despite Wlad losing to Fury and struggling against Jennings, Wilder STILL hasn't fought anybody as good as that

Thanks for making my point. Swinging wild against bums and swinging wild against someone like Wlad who even at 43 years old is smart enough to wether the storm and comeback in the same round and knockdown your wild ass is 2 totally different things.

I know you seem to be upset because I CRITICIZED your nikka on some shyt he needs to work on, but you defending wild and sloppy boxing because homie is finishing bums with it is the same as defending UFC fighters when they do wild and sloppy boxing to finish an opponent to me.

Youre only as good as you come up against and that shyt is a weakness that works against weakass heavyweights.

And I didn't show you any examples because I didn't go look for any examples
I'd say Stiverne, Arreola, Washington, and Spitzka provide Wilder with a better overall resume than Joshua.
You aren't making much of a point, Joshua punched himself out, then was wild swinging at the in to force a stoppage, nothing wrong with that. That said if Wilder had landed on Wlad, Wlad wouldn't have weathered the storm, he would have been out cold, that is the difference in their power.

I'm not upset with you at all, I disagree with you and I'm telling you exactly why I disagree. Either you can handle disagreement or you can't.

Funny how Arreola, Stiverne, Washington, Scott, Spitka, and Dunhaupas are bums now.

You literally have to lie at the end because you know you don't have a point any more. ;)
 

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I'd say Stiverne, Arreola, Washington, and Spitzka provide Wilder with a better overall resume than Joshua.
You aren't making much of a point, Joshua punched himself out, then was wild swinging at the in to force a stoppage, nothing wrong with that. That said if Wilder had landed on Wlad, Wlad wouldn't have weathered the storm, he would have been out cold, that is the difference in their power.

I'm not upset with you at all, I disagree with you and I'm telling you exactly why I disagree. Either you can handle disagreement or you can't.

Funny how Arreola, Stiverne, Washington, Scott, Spitka, and Dunhaupas are bums now.

You literally have to lie at the end because you know you don't have a point any more. ;)
Stiverne is the only one I dont consider a bum out of everyone you named.

And none of them would beat 43 year old Wlad.

And considering how young Joshuas career is, I'm not surprised Wilder had fought more decent competition before this fight.

But none of those guys are better than 43 year old Wlad


And lie??? Why lie when I wasn't looking to show you examples mainly because I dont have time to. I said that Wilder has a habit of throwing MUCH sloppier and wilder punches than Joshua... Am I wrong?

You say it was to finish opponents just like Joshua did to finish Wlad, but point is he throws sloppy ass punches that wouldnt work against top heavyweight fighters imo... None who Ive seen Wilder face with the exception of Stiverne maybe. Right or wrong???

Waan't even trying to knock Wilder either but you defending a weakness like its ok because he "supposedly" only does it when he's finishing a bum
 

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Any NFL heads in this thread know when the Raider's Vegas Stadium in projected for completion?

Not to get too off topic but this fight kind of showed why I said that move is gonna be huge, because if they build a proper stadium w/a retractable roof, good sight lines and video screens, than it's gonna be a massive venue for boxing/mma/soccer/rugby

As is I think the venue could be a point of contention; Joshua is the bigger draw and Wembley is huge, but on the other hand they'll lose way less of the gate to taxes if they had the fight in the US
 
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