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So I asked my bredrin what's he doing for his birthday this weekend. He tells me watching the fight. So I ask sports bar and he goes nah. This breddah starts looking at me with the biggest grin ever and tells me live.

I look at him like:ohhh:And ask him how. He is like work. This nikka got himself a job working security at Wembley just so he can see the fight.
 
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So I asked my bredrin what's he doing for his birthday this weekend. He tells me watching the fight. So I ask sports bar and he goes nah. This breddah starts looking at me with the biggest grin ever and tells me live.

I look at him like:ohhh:And ask him how. He is like work. This nikka got himself a job working security at Wembley just so he can see the fight.
Breh is slick:jawalrus: get paid to watch the fight he'll probably pat me down on Saturday :dame:
 

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Whoever gets their jab off first will win. AJ is still very stiff just like Wlad. Wlad looking like 3-5% body fat n/t. Hopefully we get some fireworks.
idk why people keep saying this

I usually don't like stiff fighters and it's sure as hell that I would notice if he would be that stiff, he moves pretty fluid relatively to his size. As I said not a Muhammad Ali like movement but still... it's okay.
 

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also y'all saying he's looking nervous...

That's not always a bad thing. He doesn't look that nervous to me btw just a little but even if he does it's totally normal cause this is by far his biggest challenge so far in his career. Pressure brings out different things from different people. Some people really fall apart under pressure bu some of them bring their absolutely A game when they feel pressure. We will see which type Joshua rather is.
But I won't call him mentally defeated or anything cause he is a little nervous before the defining fight of his career. Totally natural.
 

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idk why people keep saying this

I usually don't likinge stiff fighters and it's sure as hell that I would notice if he would be that stiff, he moves pretty fluid relatively to his size. As I said not a Muhammad Ali like movement but still... it's okay.
Has a problem moving backwards, laterally and sometimes pushes his punches. Very fluid when punching, but he can't move that well yet, so he often resets himself. Open to any variety of the left hook often. Not gna talk about Wlad b/c his flaws are known.
 

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Has a problem moving backwards, laterally and sometimes pushes his punches. Very fluid when punching, but he can't move that well yet, so he often resets himself. Open to any variety of the left hook often. Not gna talk about Wlad b/c his flaws are known.
yeah clearer now
You're right about those
 

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Placed a KO bet for AJ in 2-12...nice parlay: Campbell by decision, quigg by KO, AJ by decision @Willy Waffle

Wlad gonna jab and hold when he can, possibly hesitate to throw with AJ if he feels the power :russell:

AJ should give him some respect in the first couple rounds then go into destroy mode, Wlad ain't took a true bomb to the chin in at least two years probably more and coming off layoff.
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How are you guys going to watch the fight?

Can someone PM this brother a link
 

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How are you guys going to watch the fight?

Can someone PM this brother a link


my guy, it's 2017. If you're not willing to drop at least 10 bucks for a decent stream, stay home and wait for the upload.
 

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I don't trust AJ's chin and he is a bit upright and Wlad has power

and he hits you with a big jab so he can stun you and drop a big right hand on you.

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he is very good at staying in range and he has to be because he must maintain this range to set up a big right hand. you take a step back, he takes a step in. you take a step in, he takes a step back.

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this means you have to try to come way in or you have to try to stay way out, so he cant have access to a range where he can set up a big right hand on you. you never want to just hang out on the end of his jab. tyson fury stayed way out so he never got hung out on the end of his jab. he never got to hang fury out on the end of his jab, so he never got to pull the trigger on his right hand.

this worked for tyson fury but this may not work for anthony joshua. i think what you may see is each guy meet in the center of the ring. in the center of the ring joshua is going to try to wait and counter and every now and then come to rush in with some big punches.

think thier game plan is to come over the top of Wlads jab with a right hand.

and one more counter joshua throws is a check hook on a jab.

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joshua has no seperation on these check hooks and when you throw a check hook on a jab and you dont create good seperation, with your feet and/or with your upper body, you can run into a right hand. that was how edison miranda knocked out david banks.

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a check hook on a jab is a good counter. but a check hook on a jab and a right hand, makes you run into the right hand.

joshua is a good counter puncher but he is not going to be given a lot to counter. you cant just wait to counter or you are just going to wait forever. he is going to have to force his way in or the dead gaps he is going to create waiting to counter are going to be filled in by a very steady jab and he is going to give away really big chunks of rounds.

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klitschko has a very steady jab and joshua doesnt have very good head movement.

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and he cant eat big jabs or he is going to eat big right hands too.

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in the center of the ring joshua cant go jab for jab and he is probably going to create some big dead gaps waiting to counter but when he comes to rush in with some big punches he can mend some of this disparity by punching in spurts and bursts. joshua cant take too many big breaks in between swinging big and missing big or the dead gaps he is creating are just going to get bigger and bigger and filled in with more and more jabs. i think joshua is going to have to force his way in over and over to get going and whats going to compound this is klitschko is not an easy guy to get to. he has a good step back and when joshua comes to rush in with some big punches you are going to see it.

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@hyperman25i think wlad is done by the way. the jennings fight was just the start for me but against fury that made it official for me. people can say fury akward style was what made problems from wlad but, he also couldn't pull the trigger. he knew he had to ko fury to win the fight and i didn't see any urgency/desperation what so ever in him to ko him.

maybe he needed to pull the trigger to beat fury but he doesnt really need to pull the trigger to beat joshua. he just has to get a good jab going to outwork joshua and a good step back to get away from big shots and repeat. i think he can do those things. but i think he can be hit with big shots too and that may be more true now than ever. but the window for this may not be very big. joshua has never went 12 rounds. there are a lot of x factors here for each of these guys. but i think jab and step back beats wait to counter and rush in with punches. because over the course of his career it always has.
 

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Is wilder vs Joshua a big fight in the UK? Dan Rafael isn't living in the UK. People here don't know who deontay wilder is, only boxing fans. It's not like the Klitschko fight where everyone from casuals to non sport fans know who wlad is. I think Dan is talking rubbish on that one. It's a bigger fight in america.
 

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and he hits you with a big jab so he can stun you and drop a big right hand on you.

Tz6fV1FJ.gif


he is very good at staying in range and he has to be because he must maintain this range to set up a big right hand. you take a step back, he takes a step in. you take a step in, he takes a step back.

slYmodTO.gif


this means you have to try to come way in or you have to try to stay way out, so he cant have access to a range where he can set up a big right hand on you. you never want to just hang out on the end of his jab. tyson fury stayed way out so he never got hung out on the end of his jab. he never got to hang fury out on the end of his jab, so he never got to pull the trigger on his right hand.

this worked for tyson fury but this may not work for anthony joshua. i think what you may see is each guy meet in the center of the ring. in the center of the ring joshua is going to try to wait and counter and every now and then come to rush in with some big punches.



and one more counter joshua throws is a check hook on a jab.

RvaT1S0t.gif


joshua has no seperation on these check hooks and when you throw a check hook on a jab and you dont create good seperation, with your feet and/or with your upper body, you can run into a right hand. that was how edison miranda knocked out david banks.

iO3ng8uF.gif


Dg74Zs98.gif


a check hook on a jab is a good counter. but a check hook on a jab and a right hand, makes you run into the right hand.

joshua is a good counter puncher but he is not going to be given a lot to counter. you cant just wait to counter or you are just going to wait forever. he is going to have to force his way in or the dead gaps he is going to create waiting to counter are going to be filled in by a very steady jab and he is going to give away really big chunks of rounds.

nxp2rvj4.gif


klitschko has a very steady jab and joshua doesnt have very good head movement.

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and he cant eat big jabs or he is going to eat big right hands too.

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in the center of the ring joshua cant go jab for jab and he is probably going to create some big dead gaps waiting to counter but when he comes to rush in with some big punches he can mend some of this disparity by punching in spurts and bursts. joshua cant take too many big breaks in between swinging big and missing big or the dead gaps he is creating are just going to get bigger and bigger and filled in with more and more jabs. i think joshua is going to have to force his way in over and over to get going and whats going to compound this is klitschko is not an easy guy to get to. he has a good step back and when joshua comes to rush in with some big punches you are going to see it.

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maybe he needed to pull the trigger to beat fury but he doesnt really need to pull the trigger to beat joshua. he just has to get a good jab going to outwork joshua and a good step back to get away from big shots and repeat. i think he can do those things. but i think he can be hit with big shots too and that may be more true now than ever. but the window for this may not be very big. joshua has never went 12 rounds. there are a lot of x factors here for each of these guys. but i think jab and step back beats wait to counter and rush in with punches. because over the course of his career it always has.

I agree, the main thing I see is experience, he need more experience fighting more guys who don't go down with first shot. Martin and Brazelle are getting you ready for Wlad. I would have liked to see him fight Stiverne just to get more top level rounds and experience.

I think his raw ness is going to cost him tonight.
 
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