October Surprise: Special counsel filing with new evidence in 2020 election subversion case against Trump

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So be a buddy rider to "pay the bills" like the anti intellectual broke fukk you are. There is a reason why you trapped in a red state with regressive policies and broke CACs and c00ns alike. God don't like ugly c00ns that disrespect his image.
I don’t live that state anymore, so nice try. Come up with better insults than the one you’re hurling.

I've also made it clear in multiple threads that I'm voting for Harris, so again come up with better insults.

Not one person in this thread is leaving this country like what OP said and that's not going to change and shouldn't be talked about.
 

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1/11
@EdKrassen
Wow!

Fox News just reported: “We are learning that Trump resorted to crime in a bid to cling to power after the 2020 election.”

“RESORTED TO CRIME!”

Fox News Just Said That!

Trump is done!



2/11
@Kush6xi
Trump is COOKED. MAGA is PANICKING



3/11
@EdKrassen
They are



4/11
@SaintLaurant
I'm dying! Fox hosts were in the midst of his criming, and communication w him while the riot was happening! That network is in a desperate damage control mode.



5/11
@EdKrassen
Kinda ironic, right?



6/11
@TeslaLarry
Ed - would you please quote the full context of that sentence - ow did it continue? Seems a 7 second outtake isnt very reliable...



7/11
@EdKrassen
Here is the full context. It doesn’t change anything.



8/11
@whereami345
If Fox News is turning on Trump, the end is near.



9/11
@Bill_Gro
Sadly, he's a convicted felon and his supporters just don't seem to care. I seriously doubt this will make a significant dent in his base.



10/11
@MarkMantis
The more we learn, the more damning. He should never be allowed anywhere NEAR public office EVER AGAIN.



11/11
@PawlowskiMario
Holy shyt, this is big. Hey @realDonaldTrump, you are fukked. Please tweet something stupid.




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1/21
@EdKrassen
WOW! No one can vote for Trump after this!

The new Jack Smith Documents, released by Judge Chutkan really say that leading up to the violence of January 6, 2020, the Trump campaign literally said "Make them riot" and "Do it!"

There is no saving Trump's chances after this.

Campaign staff literally were trying to create a riot in order to prevent Joe Biden from becoming President.

This is pure Evil!



2/21
@IThePerson_
I'm voting for Trump!



3/21
@EdKrassen
So crazy.



4/21
@krassenstein
October Surprise came quick.



5/21
@EdKrassen
There may be more…



6/21
@SYLSBC
The scary part is they have a playbook. And they might do this again.



7/21
@EdKrassen
Yeah and Trump knows how to do it better next time.



8/21
@Angelica_Reed1
so many people don't care...



9/21
@EdKrassen
Sad but true



10/21
@ugottabillieve
Let's see how MAGA spins it this time.



11/21
@EdKrassen
Oh, I guarantee they spin this like crazy.



12/21
@MaileOnX
Absolutely insane- deciding what ballots were gonna say BEFORE anyone voted



13/21
@EdKrassen
It's insane for sure!



14/21
@MericasPlumber1
If true, which we will never know, Trump offered and was rebuffed 10,000 national guard and is NOT responsible for an overzealous staffer.



15/21
@EdKrassen
Trump never issued an order for 10K troops. He was rebuffed by no one.



16/21
@Donniesgirl73
Wow that is insane!



17/21
@EdKrassen
Yeah



18/21
@blueminddivers
the timing of this in connection with Vance's refusal to admit that Trump factually lost the 2020 election is beautiful



19/21
@garykoepnick
Biden stepped aside for his country.

Reluctantly, but he did.

Trump will not. He cannot.



20/21
@3orovik
I’m voting for Trump



21/21
@realChipEvans
Good luck with that……did you watch the “beat down” by JD last night…all systems go. You guys know it’s uphill, way uphill, so keep throwing spaghetti at the wall….🔥




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Donald Trump in Milwaukee on Oct 1


Donald Trump in Milwaukee on Oct 1 Getty/Jim Watson

Key moments​


3 October 2024 • 12:18am

10:52pm - ‘Win or lose - you fight like hell’

10:34pm - Read the new Trump court documents in full

10:03pm - Trump ‘said ‘so what’ as Pence was rushed to safety’

9:44pm - Pence encouraged Trump to accept defeat

9:37pm - ‘He’s just going to say that he’s the winner’

Donald Trump has accused Kamala Harris of trying to subvert the presidential election, after damning court documents were released just a month before polling day.

The former president has been charged with trying to overturn the result of the 2020 election, and the newly unsealed 165-page filing is the prosecution’s case against him.

Among the claims made in the document are that Trump planned to “declare himself a winner” in the 2020 election before ballots were counted, and that he responded “so what” when he was told that Mike Pence, his vice president, was rushed to safety as the Capitol was stormed by rioters.

The timing of the release prompted a furious response from Trump on Wednesday night.

He said: “The release of this falsehood-ridden, unconstitutional, Jan 6 brief immediately following Tim Walz’s disastrous Debate performance, and 33 days before the most important election in the history of our country, is another obvious attempt by the Harris-Biden regime to undermine and weaponise American democracy, and interfere in the 2024 presidential election”

Mr Walz, Ms Harris’s running mate took on his Republican counterpart, JD Vance in a CBS vice-presidential debate on Tuesday night. Mr Vance was widely deemed the winner.

Trump went on to say that Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by the justice department in November 2022 to lead the prosecution and investigation into him, was deranged and “hell-bent on weaponizing the Justice Department.”

The former president was indicted by a grand jury on four charges related to his alleged effort to subvert the 2020 election, but his trial was derailed over a dispute about whether he enjoyed immunity from prosecution while in office.

Mr Smith’s motion argues that Trump’s election meddling efforts were undertaken in a “private” capacity, and therefore not exempt from prosecution.

Typically, such a motion would follow a filing by the defence. However, in a move described as unusual by legal experts, the presiding judge allowed Mr Smith’s team to pre-empt Trump’s motion, allowing Mr Smith to outline his case just over a month before the US election.

Read it in full here, or scroll down further for latest updates.

DocumentCloud

Benedict Smith Joe Barnes Brussels Correspondent. Susie Coen US Correspondent. Rozina Sabur Deputy US Editor

3 October 2024 • 12:49am

12:18AM

That’s all for now​


Thanks for following our live coverage of the bombshell court documents that were released in Donald Trump’s election interference case. This live blog is now closed.

12:01AM

Timing of new documents ‘could have been better’​


A former lawyer for Donald Trump said the timing of the new court filing “could be better” given the fact that the election is just weeks away.

Timothy Parlatore, who worked for the former president while he was the subject of a probe into his “election interference” case, told CNN: “The timing could be better, you know, for appearance’s purposes.

“They asked for a briefing schedule that this was filed a few weeks ago, and then it took a few weeks for it to be unsealed. It’s very detailed.

“Donald Trump’s response isn’t going to be for another couple of weeks... we’re unlikely to be able to see his response to this until after the election.”

He continued: “People are reading this in the context of an election, not just in the context of criminal proceedings.”

11:07PM

‘People will hate your guts,’ Trump warned Pence​


On New Year’s day in 2021, Trump warned Mike Pence that people would “hate your guts” and “think you’re stupid” if his vice president did not intervene in Congress’ certification of Joe Biden’s victory, according to the filing.

11:04PM

Trump claims Democrats have ‘weaponised the justice department’​


Donald Trump has fired out a barrage of Truth Social posts after new documents in his “election interference” case were made public.

10:56PM

The ‘dogged prosecutor’ pursuing Donald Trump​


Jack Smith has a reputation as a dogged prosecutor. In his appointment as an independent special counsel, he has proved his determination to pursue his case against Donald Trump.

The 165-page brief, filed last week but only publicly revealed today, is most likely Mr Smith’s final opportunity to detail his case against Trump before the election.

There will not be a trial anytime soon - or perhaps ever, if Trump returns to the White House. The Justice Department’s long-standing policy is that sitting presidents cannot face prosecution.

10:52PM

‘Win or lose - you fight like hell’​


Donald Trump said he would “fight like hell” to stay in power whether he won or lost the 2020 presidential election, according to the new documents.

According to a White House staffer travelling with Trump, some time after he began “spreading false fraud claims”, he told family members: “It doesn’t mater if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell.”

Prosecutors cite it as one of a number of pieces of evidence that show that the former president knew the claims he was making about the election being “stolen” were untrue.

10:37PM

Trump hits out at Kamala Harris and ‘Deranged Jack Smith’​


10:34PM

Read the new Trump court documents in full​


10:32PM

Trump staffer: Fraud claims were ‘bulls---’​


Trump’s White House staffer told the then-president they could “find no support” for his election fraud claims because they were all “bulls---”.

The employee, who is referred to as P9 in the partially redacted document, told Trump the claims would get “slaughtered” in court.

10:31PM

What has happened so far in Trump’s criminal case?​


In August last year, Trump was charged with four counts relating to his alleged attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

The case was put on hold while the former president’s claim that he was protected from prosecution made its way through the courts.

In the Supreme Court this summer, justices ruled that Trump was immune from prosecution for conduct involving his interactions with the Justice Department.

Jack Smith filed a superseding indictment in August which kept the four initial charges against Trump but narrowed the scope of the allegations.

10:17PM

Court filing: Trump knew election fraud claims were false​


Trump and his co-conspirators continued to make false claims about election fraud “even after they had been publicly disproven” and advisers told him they were untrue.

The former president is accused of making “unsupported, objectively unreasonable, and ever-changing claims” of election fraud, such as that large numbers of dead or eligible voters had cast ballots.

The court filing alleges Trump “knew his fraud claims were false” because a White House staffer and Mike Pence told him they were not true.

Trump was told by one aide, who is referred to as P9 in the filing, that he “could not mount successful legal challenges to the election”.

When Trump said he would only pay his lawyer if he “succeeded”, P9 told him “he would never have to pay” him anything, to which Trump laughed and said “we’ll see”.

After P9 again told the defendant he would be unable to prove his false fraud allegations in court, Trump is said to have replied: “The details don’t matter.”

10:15PM

The tough special counsel aiming to put Trump in jail​


When Alexi Schacht was asked to defend Manzoor Qadar, who was accused of murdering his niece’s husband as part of an honour killing, he thought it would be a doddle.

The prosecution was relying on “thin” circumstantial evidence to prove his client had travelled from Blackburn, Lancashire, in 1996 to shoot Shaukat Parvez dead in Queens in exchange for a £46,000 bounty.

So confident was Mr Schacht that the case would fall apart, he branded it at the time as “one of the weakest prosecutions I’ve ever seen”.

But the one thing the lawyer hadn’t factored into the trial at Brooklyn federal court was his opponent: Jack Smith.

Read the full profile from Susie Coen, our US Correspondent, here.

10:03PM

Trump ‘said ‘so what’ when Mike Pence was rushed to safety’​


Donald Trump said “so what” when Mike Pence was rushed to safety during the Capitol riots, a new court filing reveals.

Trump, then the US president, was told that his vice president had been forced to flee the Capitol on January 6 2021 as rioters burst in, according to court documents filed by special counsel Jack Smith.

A US judge has made the 165-page document public, in which prosecutors lay out their evidence that allegedly shows Trump illegally tried to overturn his 2020 election defeat.

It reads: “Upon receiving a phone call alerting him that Pence had been taken to a secure location, [redacted] rushed to the dining room to inform the defendant [Trump] in hopes that the defendant would take action to ensure Pence’s safety.

“Instead, after [redacted] delivered the news, the defendant looked at him and said only, “So what?”
 

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This dude forgot about Comey sinking Hillary's campaign just before the election. I remember it because I thought it was bullshyt. This piece of shyt was going on and on about her emails....now look at him. Can't even blame the dems on this. He kept delaying and delaying...welll..tough break, nikka
 

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9:50PM

Trump operatives ‘sought to create chaos’​


Trump’s private operatives “sought to create chaos” at polling stations where votes were still being counted.

One campaign employee and alleged co-conspirator “tried to sow confusion” at a polling station in Detroit, Michigan, which looked “unfavourable” for Trump.

When a colleague told the campaign operative, who is named as P5 in the court filing, “we think [a batch of votes heavily in Biden’s favour is] right”, they responded: “find a reason it isn’t”, “give me options to file litigation” and “even if itbis [sic]”.

When the colleague said there could be “unrest”, P5 replied: “make them riot” and “do it!!!”

Trump’s campaign staff are said to have used “similar tactics” at other tabulation centres, which the then-president used to claim his “election observers were being denied proper access.”

9:44PM

Pence encouraged Trump to accept defeat and see it as ‘intermission’​


Mike Pence encouraged Donald Trump to see his 2020 election defeat not as a “loss” but an “intermission”.

In November 12 2020, the former vice president told Trump that he should not concede but “recognise [that the] process is over”.

At a lunch four days later, Mr Pence encouraged him to accept the election results. The former president is said to have responded: “I don’t know, 2024 is so far-off.”

On December 21, the then-vice president “encouraged” Trump “not to look at the election ‘just as a loss - just an intermission.’”

Later the same day, Mr Pence told him “after we have exhausted every legal process in the courts and Congress, if we still came up short, [you] should ‘take a bow.’”

9:37PM

‘He’s just going to say that he’s the winner’​


Trump’s private political advisor told a group of supporters the then-president’s strategy was to “declare himself a winner”.

Three days before the election, the aide said: “And what Trump’s going to do is just declare victory. Right? He’s going to declare victory.

“That doesn’t mean he’s the winner, he’s just going to say he’s the winner”.

He said Trump was going to “take advantage” of Joe Biden’s supporters favouring mail-in ballots.

According to the court filing, he added: “that’s our strategy. He’s going to declare himself a winner.”

9:33PM

Trump ‘planted the seeds’ to claim he won the election​


Trump told his advisors he would “simply declare victory before the ballots were counted” when he was told the 2020 race would be close.

His team warned him that while he might appear to be in the lead initially, it would “diminish” when mail-in ballots were counted.

Trump then publicly began to “plant the seeds” for the false declaration, according to the filing.

9:31PM

How will Republicans respond to the new documents?​


Republicans are likely to frame the submission of the new court documents in Donald Trump’s “election interference” case as an attempt to influence the 2024 presidential election, which is now just over a month away.

9:26PM

Trump campaign hits back​


The Trump campaign has told CNN that the court documents were submitted because Democrats are rattled by JD Vance’s performance in the vice presidential debate last night.

Donald Trump is yet to offer a comment himself via his Truth Social platform.

9:24PM

‘Trump resorted to crimes to stay in office’​


After losing to Joe Biden in the 2020 election, Trump “resorted to crimes to try to stay in office”.

He launched “a series of increasingly desperate plans” to try and overturn the election results, prosecutors allege.

They claim Trump’s efforts included lying to state officials to “induce them to ignore true vote counts” and “manufacturing fraudulent electoral votes in the targeted states.”

He is also accused of trying to “enlist” Mike Pence to obstruct the certification of the election.

Prosecutors also accuse Trump of “directing an angry crowd of supporters to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification” on 6 January 2021.

9:23PM

‘Make them riot’​


An unnamed Trump campaign official urged colleagues to “make them riot” and “do it” when it was suggested their election theft claims could spark violence.

Campaign officials were discussing whether false claims from Donald Trump that he had won the 2020 election could result in scenes similar to the Brooks Brothers Riot, a violent attempt to stop the vote count in Florida after the 2000 presidential election.

Supporters of Mr Trump eventually launched a violent siege of the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021, two months after his election defeat.

The details were revealed in new court documents in the case accusing Mr Trump of subverting the election released on Wednesday.
 

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11 damning details in Jack Smith’s new brief in the Trump election case​


From Trump’s fictitious stats about voter fraud to the FBI’s forensic analysis of Trump’s phone, prosecutors previewed how they would make their case at trial.

Former President Donald Trump speaks.


Federal prosecutors have filed their most detailed compilation of evidence yet against former President Donald Trump in connection with the criminal case accusing him of conspiring to overturn the 2020 presidential election. | Joe Raedle/Getty Images

By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

10/02/2024 09:45 PM EDT

Special counsel Jack Smith won’t get a chance to bring his best criminal case against Donald Trump to trial before the 2024 election — and if Trump wins, Smith probably will never get that chance. But on Wednesday, the public got its most complete look at the evidence Smith has amassed to try to prove that the former president orchestrated criminal conspiracies as he sought to overturn his loss four years ago.

In a 165-page legal brief unsealed by a federal judge (albeit with some redactions), the special counsel fleshed out detailed evidence he would use against Trump at trial, if the case ever makes it that far. Smith also presented his arguments for why Trump is not immune from the charges, despite the Supreme Court’s ruling over the summer that granted presidents broad immunity for official acts.

Much of Smith’s brief focused on Trump’s state of mind in the weeks leading up to the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021. Smith described a slew of conversations suggesting that the then-president knew his claims of election fraud were spurious. And Smith laid out evidence that Trump’s sole objective was to stay in power — not, as he and his lawyers have claimed, to exercise legitimate authority over election integrity.

Here’s POLITICO’s look at the most significant and striking details in Smith’s brief.


Alone with his phone​


At 2:24 p.m. on Jan. 6, as Trump supporters were attacking the Capitol, Trump took to Twitter to condemn Vice President Mike Pence, saying Pence lacked “courage” because Pence had resisted Trump’s pressure to intervene in the Electoral College certification.

According to Smith’s prosecutors, Trump was alone in the White House dining room when he sent that tweet. Trump’s aides had left him there after failing to persuade him to call on his supporters to leave the Capitol.

“The defendant personally posted the tweet … at a point when he already understood the Capitol had been breached,” prosecutors wrote.


Trump asked: ‘So what?’​


The tweet criticizing Pence coincided with one of the most perilous moments of the riot: the precise minute Pence was being evacuated from his Senate office to a loading dock below the Capitol. Rioters had come within 40 feet of where he was sheltering just before this moment.

When Trump was told by an aide of Pence’s evacuation, prosecutors say Trump responded: “So what?”

Trump’s first call for calm — which advisers viewed as insufficient — came 14 minutes later: “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”


Disregarding the results​


According to prosecutors, at one point during Trump’s bid to overturn the results, a Trump White House aide overheard Trump tell his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner: “It doesn’t matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell.” The comment was allegedly made on Marine One.


Inventing statistics​


Prosecutors said they would prove at trial that Trump and his allies often made up statistics about voter fraud “from whole cloth.” For example, Trump and allies alleged that 36,000 noncitizens had cast ballots in Arizona, changing the figure to “a few hundred thousand” five days later, eventually revising it back to “bare minimum … 40 or 50,000,” then to 32,000 and back up to the original number of 36,000.


Broken promises of evidence​


One week after Election Day in 2020, Trump told then-Gov. Doug Ducey (R-Ariz.) that he was “packaging up” fraud evidence to share with him, prosecutors wrote. But Trump never provided it. Ducey told Trump that Arizona was all but lost, comparing it to being in “the ninth inning, two outs, and [the defendant] was several runs down,” Smith’s brief recounted.


Mocking Sidney Powell​


After a Fox News host called out Trump-aligned lawyer Sidney Powell for making bizarre claims about Dominion Voting machines, Trump called her on speakerphone. On the Nov. 20, 2020 call, Trump muted his line and mocked her to two aides, calling her claims about the election “crazy” and making a reference to Star Trek, prosecutors contend. On another occasion, he called Powell “unhinged.”

Though it’s not referenced in Smith’s new filing or his indictment, Trump later considered naming Powell as a special counsel to investigate election fraud, and he considered a proposal she crafted to seize voting machines from swing states for a forensic inspection.


Trump’s Jan. 5 call to Steve Bannon​


Prosecutors, who had more access to telephone records and emails than the congressional committee that investigated Jan. 6, allege that Trump spoke to ally Steve Bannon by phone on Jan. 5 less than two hours before Bannon issued a prescient and provocative prediction on his War Room podcast that “all hell is going to break loose” on Jan. 6.


A preview of forensic evidence​


Prosecutors plan to have an FBI computer forensic examiner testify about Trump’s phone use on Jan. 6. They say it will show which news and social media apps he had on his phone and will reveal that Trump was on Twitter for much of the day. Prosecutors also plan to show at trial what Fox News was broadcasting at specific times during the day, since Trump had it on in the dining room and was watching coverage of the riot.


‘Make them riot’​


Well before Jan. 6, an unidentified Trump campaign employee enthusiastically spoke of the potential for a riot in Michigan. The employee, whom prosecutors described as a co-conspirator, allegedly sought to “create chaos” at a polling center in Detroit when it became clear a batch of election returns favorable to Biden was legitimate. “Find a reason it isn’t,” the alleged co-conspirator said to a colleague, prosecutors wrote. When the colleague said an outbreak of violence appeared imminent, the campaign employee replied: “Make them riot” and “Do it!!!”


Rudy’s rise​


Trump sidelined his campaign lawyers on Nov. 13, 2020, with Bannon informing another Trump campaign adviser — and alleged co-conspirator — that Trump had replaced them in the pecking order with Rudy Giuliani. Bannon said he told Trump that without Giuliani in charge, “this thing is over.” “Trump is in to the end,” Bannon added, according to prosecutors.


Rudy’s follies​


Counting on Giuliani didn’t turn out so well. Smith’s brief includes yet another instance of Giuliani’s prolific record of butt-dialing and clumsy cell phone use. Prosecutors say he attempted to send a proposed resolution to Michigan lawmakers declaring the election to be in dispute — but sent it to the wrong number.
 

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11 damning details in Jack Smith’s new brief in the Trump election case​


From Trump’s fictitious stats about voter fraud to the FBI’s forensic analysis of Trump’s phone, prosecutors previewed how they would make their case at trial.

Former President Donald Trump speaks.


Federal prosecutors have filed their most detailed compilation of evidence yet against former President Donald Trump in connection with the criminal case accusing him of conspiring to overturn the 2020 presidential election. | Joe Raedle/Getty Images

By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

10/02/2024 09:45 PM EDT

Special counsel Jack Smith won’t get a chance to bring his best criminal case against Donald Trump to trial before the 2024 election — and if Trump wins, Smith probably will never get that chance. But on Wednesday, the public got its most complete look at the evidence Smith has amassed to try to prove that the former president orchestrated criminal conspiracies as he sought to overturn his loss four years ago.

In a 165-page legal brief unsealed by a federal judge (albeit with some redactions), the special counsel fleshed out detailed evidence he would use against Trump at trial, if the case ever makes it that far. Smith also presented his arguments for why Trump is not immune from the charges, despite the Supreme Court’s ruling over the summer that granted presidents broad immunity for official acts.

Much of Smith’s brief focused on Trump’s state of mind in the weeks leading up to the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021. Smith described a slew of conversations suggesting that the then-president knew his claims of election fraud were spurious. And Smith laid out evidence that Trump’s sole objective was to stay in power — not, as he and his lawyers have claimed, to exercise legitimate authority over election integrity.

Here’s POLITICO’s look at the most significant and striking details in Smith’s brief.

Alone with his phone​


At 2:24 p.m. on Jan. 6, as Trump supporters were attacking the Capitol, Trump took to Twitter to condemn Vice President Mike Pence, saying Pence lacked “courage” because Pence had resisted Trump’s pressure to intervene in the Electoral College certification.

According to Smith’s prosecutors, Trump was alone in the White House dining room when he sent that tweet. Trump’s aides had left him there after failing to persuade him to call on his supporters to leave the Capitol.

“The defendant personally posted the tweet … at a point when he already understood the Capitol had been breached,” prosecutors wrote.

Trump asked: ‘So what?’​


The tweet criticizing Pence coincided with one of the most perilous moments of the riot: the precise minute Pence was being evacuated from his Senate office to a loading dock below the Capitol. Rioters had come within 40 feet of where he was sheltering just before this moment.

When Trump was told by an aide of Pence’s evacuation, prosecutors say Trump responded: “So what?”

Trump’s first call for calm — which advisers viewed as insufficient — came 14 minutes later: “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”

Disregarding the results​


According to prosecutors, at one point during Trump’s bid to overturn the results, a Trump White House aide overheard Trump tell his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner: “It doesn’t matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell.” The comment was allegedly made on Marine One.

Inventing statistics​


Prosecutors said they would prove at trial that Trump and his allies often made up statistics about voter fraud “from whole cloth.” For example, Trump and allies alleged that 36,000 noncitizens had cast ballots in Arizona, changing the figure to “a few hundred thousand” five days later, eventually revising it back to “bare minimum … 40 or 50,000,” then to 32,000 and back up to the original number of 36,000.

Broken promises of evidence​


One week after Election Day in 2020, Trump told then-Gov. Doug Ducey (R-Ariz.) that he was “packaging up” fraud evidence to share with him, prosecutors wrote. But Trump never provided it. Ducey told Trump that Arizona was all but lost, comparing it to being in “the ninth inning, two outs, and [the defendant] was several runs down,” Smith’s brief recounted.

Mocking Sidney Powell​


After a Fox News host called out Trump-aligned lawyer Sidney Powell for making bizarre claims about Dominion Voting machines, Trump called her on speakerphone. On the Nov. 20, 2020 call, Trump muted his line and mocked her to two aides, calling her claims about the election “crazy” and making a reference to Star Trek, prosecutors contend. On another occasion, he called Powell “unhinged.”

Though it’s not referenced in Smith’s new filing or his indictment, Trump later considered naming Powell as a special counsel to investigate election fraud, and he considered a proposal she crafted to seize voting machines from swing states for a forensic inspection.

Trump’s Jan. 5 call to Steve Bannon​


Prosecutors, who had more access to telephone records and emails than the congressional committee that investigated Jan. 6, allege that Trump spoke to ally Steve Bannon by phone on Jan. 5 less than two hours before Bannon issued a prescient and provocative prediction on his War Room podcast that “all hell is going to break loose” on Jan. 6.

A preview of forensic evidence​


Prosecutors plan to have an FBI computer forensic examiner testify about Trump’s phone use on Jan. 6. They say it will show which news and social media apps he had on his phone and will reveal that Trump was on Twitter for much of the day. Prosecutors also plan to show at trial what Fox News was broadcasting at specific times during the day, since Trump had it on in the dining room and was watching coverage of the riot.

‘Make them riot’​


Well before Jan. 6, an unidentified Trump campaign employee enthusiastically spoke of the potential for a riot in Michigan. The employee, whom prosecutors described as a co-conspirator, allegedly sought to “create chaos” at a polling center in Detroit when it became clear a batch of election returns favorable to Biden was legitimate. “Find a reason it isn’t,” the alleged co-conspirator said to a colleague, prosecutors wrote. When the colleague said an outbreak of violence appeared imminent, the campaign employee replied: “Make them riot” and “Do it!!!”

Rudy’s rise​


Trump sidelined his campaign lawyers on Nov. 13, 2020, with Bannon informing another Trump campaign adviser — and alleged co-conspirator — that Trump had replaced them in the pecking order with Rudy Giuliani. Bannon said he told Trump that without Giuliani in charge, “this thing is over.” “Trump is in to the end,” Bannon added, according to prosecutors.

Rudy’s follies​


Counting on Giuliani didn’t turn out so well. Smith’s brief includes yet another instance of Giuliani’s prolific record of butt-dialing and clumsy cell phone use. Prosecutors say he attempted to send a proposed resolution to Michigan lawmakers declaring the election to be in dispute — but sent it to the wrong number.
:scust: What a piece of shyt
 

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1/23
BREAKING: Judge CHUTKAN has unsealed Jack Smith's 165-page redacted motion re presidential immunity. Read it here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.252.0.pdf



2/23
NEW DETAILS FROM JACK SMITH

1) A Trump campaign employee and alleged coconspirator sought to foment chaos at the TCF ballot processing center in Detroit. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.252.0.pdf

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3/23
2) Pence told Trump he saw no evidence of outcome-determinative fruad. They had MANY conversations, some detailed in Pence's book, which prosecutors cite.

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4/23
3) Smith says he plans to prove at trial that Trump and his alies made up claims about noncitizen voters out of whole cloth.

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5/23
4) Trump repeatedly promised to "package up" and provide evidence to Gov. Ducey, Gov. Kemp and Rusty Bowers re: election fraud but never did.

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6/23
5) Mark MEADOWS (P21) and a WH lawyer (P9) exchanged messages on Dec. 3, 2020 confirming that a stat re dead voters was false.

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7/23
6) A U.S. senator (P27) helped facilitate a Dec. 8 call between Trump and Georgia AG Chris Carr.

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8/23
7) Trump clearly addressed Carr as a political candidate, per Smith's filing, saying "we're running out of time," talked about the Georgia runoffs and electing Loeffler/Perdue. He told Carr not to lobby other AGs against signing onto a Supreme Court amicus brief.

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9/23
8) Trump asked RNC chairwoan Ronna McDaniel to meet with Michigan GOP leaders but she said she coudln't because it could be considered lobbying.

Trump dialed her in anyway.

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10/23
9) Rudy tried to text a Michigan GOP leader a proposed resolution declaring the election in dispute -- but he sent it to a wrong number.

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11/23
10) On Nov. 20, Trump muted his phone while Sidney Powell was talking and mocked her repeatedly, calling her claims "crazy" and making a Star Trek reference.

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12/23
11) Ronna McDANIEL told turp she would not promote a report claiming Dominion voting machines had been manipulated in Michigan's Antrip county, in part because she had been told the report was "fukking nuts."

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13/23
12) Ken Chesebro (CC5) was instructed by co-conspirator 6 to only communicate by text with him and John Eastman.

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14/23
13) Smith provides details of private texts and conversations Trump was having with alleged co-conspirators just around Christmas, all related to the pressure campaign against Mike Pence.

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15/23
14) Trump spoke to Bannon on Jan. 5 less than two hours before Bannon predicted on his War Room podcast that "all hell is going to break loose" on Jan. 6.

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16/23
15) When Trump allies learned that Pence's lawyer, Greg Jacob, had refused to back up their plan to subvert the election, Bannon (P1) responded, "fukk his lawyer."

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17/23
16) ! Trump was *alone* in the Oval Office dining room when he tweeted his attack on Pence, prosecutors say, even as the Fox News broadcast he had on made clear the Capitol had been breached and was locked down.


18/23
17) Smith lays out more details of Giuliani's effort to lobby lawmakers to continue challenging election results even as the Capitol remained locked down and police were clearing the building.


19/23
NEWS: Jack Smith reveals his most detailed and damaging evidence of Trump's scheme to subvert the 2020 election, from repeating fraud claims he knew to be false and tweeting his Jan. 6 attack on Pence while alone in a WH dining room.

w/ @joshgerstein

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-case-00182258



20/23
Jack Smith says Trump made knowingly false claims about election fraud in 2020.

Trump, responding to the new filing, makes knowingly false claims about why this document was released today.

(It was filed on Sept. 26 and unsealed by Judge Chutkan — not DOJ — today)


21/23
MORE: WHen Trump was informed that Pence was taken to a secure location during the Jan. 6 violence — just minutes after Trump had attacked him in a tweet — Smith says Trump's response to an aide was "So what?"


22/23
Smith plans to introduce evidence fome an FBI forensic examiner showing Trump's phone use on Jan. 6 —- and tha the was using the Twitter app consistently throughout the day after his speech.


23/23
Per Smith, Trump told Ivanka and Jared Kushner: "It doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell."



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This will only matter if he lose, then the republicans in the party knows he’s done in the political world and they will throw him in the bushes because they don’t have to worry about trump stans getting all loud because they also will be quiet
 

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There's so much criminal shyt in that document. And it's not even a scratch of the real evidence Jack has on Trump.

If Harris wins the election, Merrick Garland should be fired. They sat on this for a whole year in 2021. It wasn't until the US House January 6th investigation was so strong that it forced their hand. Trump should have been indicted by mid 2022 at the least instead of August 2023. The trial would possibly be over by now or in the final stages.
 

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1/11
@carlquintanilla
That’s some lede, via @politico:

@kyledcheney
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-case-00182258



2/11
@FrancisOKC
Republicans knew this and still backed him to be their nominee *checks notes* in the next election



3/11
@Tired_Nonsense_
That must be why he turned on her. Trump only likes you if you do what he says. Anyone who refuses him is immediately his enemy. He's a crybaby bytch manchild.



4/11
@MichaelGuy1979
Carl my gay uncle called, he wants his expressions back!



5/11
@bfry1981
Even before these revelations, I noted in early February 2021 that it was obvious Trump was trying to steal the election, overthrow the government and violently, if necessary, to stop the transfer of power to Biden. Trump is unfit for any office https://realcontextnews.com/trumps-impeachment-trial-exceedingly-simple-no-excuse-not-to-convict/



6/11
@fulminarey
What 🤣

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8/11
@stateof_tate
So many incredible bits. A standout:

“The through line of these efforts was deceit: the defendant’s and co-conspirators’ knowingly false claims of election fraud.”

Shocking. And I thought I was all out of shock.



9/11
@geminikang06
Yeah….lets get the November 5th and elect Harris/Walz and move on



10/11
@Larissa84403556
Old enough to remember when NBC gave Ronna a job after she got ousted from the RNC and then acted real shocked at the backlash. She was complicit.



11/11
@NorthstarJohnny
Carl, keep posting these damning facts in a font size everyone can read! Trump is unfit!




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1/12
Thank you to @letsgohawksgpg for putting together a list of all of the redacted names in Jack Smith’s immunity filing unsealed by judge Tanya Chutkan today!

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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2/12
I found out that @Opinion_Skinny is the author of the list of the conspirators in the Jack Smith immunity filing.

Thank you for this and sorry for misattributing credit!

She also made an update to fix some of the names and clarified that Mark Meadows played two different roles, hence why he's listed twice.

I was told that P48 is Bernie Kerik, P23 is Ray Smith, and P32 should be Kurt Robert Hilbert. Can someone confirm?

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3/12
Here's the updated list of the conspirators in the Jack Smith immunity filing that was released by Judge Tanya Chutkan today by @Opinion_Skinny.

As mentioned before, if someone is listed twice then that means that they've played two roles in the case.

We're still trying to figure out who P75 is.

Also, if you see any errors then let us know!

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4/12
And Ginni Thomas.



5/12
Ditto.



6/12
Well, thank you for sharing it! If anyone knows who originally wrote it let me know!



7/12
He should be in prison!!!



8/12
I know, right?!



9/12
If anyone knows who that is, let me know!



10/12
Ditto!



11/12
Here's the latest one! Who's P75, Hood?!?!
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Here's the updated list of the conspirators in the Jack Smith immunity filing that was released by Judge Tanya Chutkan today by @Opinion_Skinny.

As mentioned before, if someone is listed twice then that means that they've played two roles in the case.

We're still trying to figure out who P75 is.

Also, if you see any errors then let us know!

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12/12
Which ones are wrong?




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