Obama vs. Romney II : Town Hall Debate @ 9pm ET

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:laff: Obama with the jab to Romney when Romney went back to speaking on China investments during the immigration question.
 

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Yall seen those pics of his son in the audience? Damn, they give off a Trinity from Dexter vibe. Mitt got bodies in the basement and his sons help him.
 

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They did say the same thing. Whether the president believes a two parent household is important in regards to gun control shouldn't really factor. And if its important to you Romney is an advocate of that then I don't see why u say he won that when Obama agreed right after. If you're giving extra points for speaking a point first then where were Obama's points for harsher gun control, funding schools, increasing opportunities for youth and working with community police and programs to prevent crimes?

Just trying to get a sense of your logic for giving a guy a win for throwing a statement out that never tied into his "solution." Yes having a stable household helps prevent criminal activity...but a president can't affect that. If Romney had said anything about "support for family's who DON'T have two parents, that topic could've been argued a tie IMO. But he failed to do that

Well it started with gun violence, but then opened up the floor for where violence stems from in the first place which is obviously how Romney grew the points about having two parents.

True, Obama did agree with Romney's point of the necessity to have a two parent household, but IMO it was the strongest point that either two of them could have made (I'm sure others will disagree, but that's how I saw it)...but Romney tossed it out there. I'm not a big "program" (i.e. subsidizing parental responsibilities) guy myself. So proposing the idea that you want the State to fund xy and z program doesn't really grab me.

I agree, that there isn't exactly a way to implement a law regarding support of two parent traditional households...other than something Romney had on his website a year or so ago about reducing taxes for married couples who file jointly...I guess when he brought up this time it sort of reminded me of that bullet on his agenda a while back. Like I said, I didn't take anything away from Obama on any of this, but Romney IMO appeared to have the right priority.
 

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I don't know how anyone can convicingly say Obama won anything here. He simply looked better and more "exciting" than the first time and that's about it.

Outside of his 47% comment, and the slight jeer about Benghazi, I don't see any clear indication that he was more effective than Romney in making his points.

yall still dont get it. you cant have a true debate if one guy isnt going to tell you how he's going to get from point A to point B. and the best he can say is look, your way aint working fast enough. my way will. when we say whats your way. he says Hey look fool. i've been a business man and governor of Mass. i've balanced budgets. i can balance this one.

this is true mitt. mass budget is darn near self balanced based on the fact that a ton of people make a good amt of money there and are very educated there. which has little to do with rom's policies. mass was this way before he stepped in there. now as far as his businesses go. sure you can balance a budget. if you .... send jobs overseas and / or fire people.

thats not the kind of budget balance the country is looking for. so its a moot point when he says something like that. we want to hear his SPECIFIC methods to get from point A to point B. obama gave you his. you dont have to agree. agree with the fact that he gave you his specifics and the other guy refuses to. therefore there is no legit debate. obama wins by default. on that alone.

Every time romney lied obama called him out. romney tried to over talk him to stop from being called out. the fact checkers proved the point as usual. all politicians bend the truth. but some actually lie flat out. rom lies flat out about a lot of what he says(even though it still aint the specifics). he also flip flops like crazy.

so you have a flip flop liar who told you what he thought about the 47%.

Vote for him if you want to. if you dont like obama. thats fine. there are other choices. there's a libertarian party thats running and a green party candidate. you are not stuck with just these 2.
 

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I'm socially liberal, fiscally conservative, with a streak of libertarianism :ehh:

Libertarianism great concept, impossible to implement with out complete Chaos

When you hear labor disputes in sports, I always see parallels with what the Right and Left want in terms of tax percentage with the rich.
 

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yall still dont get it. you cant have a true debate if one guy isnt going to tell you how he's going to get from point A to point B. and the best he can say is look, your way aint working fast enough. my way will. when we say whats your way. he says Hey look fool. i've been a business man and governor of Mass. i've balanced budgets. i can balance this one.

this is true mitt. mass budget is darn near self balanced based on the fact that a ton of people make a good amt of money there and are very educated there. which has little to do with rom's policies. mass was this way before he stepped in there. now as far as his businesses go. sure you can balance a budget. if you .... send jobs overseas and / or fire people.

thats not the kind of budget balance the country is looking for. so its a moot point when he says something like that. we want to hear his SPECIFIC methods to get from point A to point B. obama gave you his. you dont have to agree. agree with the fact that he gave you his specifics and the other guy refuses to. therefore there is no legit debate. obama wins by default. on that alone.

Every time romney lied obama called him out. romney tried to over talk him to stop from being called out. the fact checkers proved the point as usual. all politicians bend the truth. but some actually lie flat out. rom lies flat out about a lot of what he says(even though it still aint the specifics). he also flip flops like crazy.

so you have a flip flop liar who told you what he thought about the 47%.

Vote for him if you want to. if you dont like obama. thats fine. there are other choices. there's a libertarian party thats running and a green party candidate. you are not stuck with just these 2.

Hey, the way I see it that several Obama supporters here are quick to claim that Obama is defending his position with just undeniable facts...I just don't see it that way. lol

I mean I seriously think some of the people on here deliberately turn down the volume when Romney speaks..because he allegedly "called him out" on various things as well that he thought were true...anything from what his definition of what the actual employment rate was... to raising the deficit more in 4 years than Bush did in 8...or the issue about permits and licenses for alternative energy sources and the Behnghazi escapade.

I mean if you're clearly an Obama supporter and sincerely believe that he is just speaking the "truth" and went on a mission tonight...then that's fine and dandy...but what I saw from both of them was a ALOT of relentless "fact checking" from one another which is why I really can't say either one was any more impressive than the other. The only thing I can say though is that Obama clearly appeared to be more engaged this time around, but that's about it.

As far as representatives running for different parties...I agree...Gary Johnson for example is an impressive option, while Roseanne Barr is well...Roseanne Barr...

But I think it's somewhat hilarious that people are simply stoked that Obama didn't flounder on this one. I mean he did aiiight...its the really the way I expected him to look the first time around TBH.
 

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GO WATCH msnbc

GE (General Electric) own NBC which owns MSNBC


GE CEO is Jeffrey Immel

Obama Picks Jeffrey Immelt, GE CEO, To Run New Jobs-Focused Panel As GE Sends Jobs Overseas, Pays Little In Taxes

Jeffrey R. Immelt, the chairman and chief executive of General Electric Co. tapped by President Barack Obama as his next top outside economic adviser, will be asked to guide the White House as it attempts to jump-start lackluster job creation and spur a muddled recovery.



THAT WHY MSNBC dikkRIDES the DEMOCRATS

oh and GE paid 0 txes

General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010 - ABC News


:blink:

GE doesn't even own NBC anymore. :why:

i swear to god i want to kill undecided voters, how dont you know what you align in :what:? you are either liberal , conservative, or atleast moderate.


They're all attention whores. its disgusting
 

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fukk these "undecided voters" :aicmon::pacspit:

fukk you mean you don't know who you are going to vote for?:aicmon:

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Obama hit him with the :whoa:
 

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Hey it's your call chief :yeshrug:

That's not what I heard. I pretty much pinned them as saying the same thing. Obama spoke first then Romney agreed with his points but threw in the necessity for a two-parent household. I've been a major advocate of that for quite some time...so he won me over there.

so what obama isn't for two parent households. :beli:

overall the most important thing i heard from either of them was from Obama about funding education and r&d in this country, something the republicans are against, which is the only thing that would help the us economy in the long run. that whole putting pressure on china thing mitt said is bullshyt. like obama said most of those jobs are not coming back so the best thing for the u.s is to have a higher skilled and educated workforce that would drive more innovations and the only how we can have that is to encourage more people to go into science, engineering, etc and overall higher education and make sure they can fund it.

i also like where he shot down the anti business claims that the repubs been pushing for awhile now and layed down the facts that what he's trying to do is no different than what was done after WWII when the government spent a shytload on education and the economy which is basically responsible for the success alot of americans have been enjoying the last few years now.
 
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