Obama signs Monsanto Protection Act while Gay Marriage has us distracted

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This is the future that was promised...Genetically modified food. Stronger and BETTER than nature! I have a feeling this is going to go bad someway somehow.
 

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At what expense?....And agriculture in the organic sense has been around for at least 5,000 years...but since Monsanto say the game is all fukked up we gotta switch it up now? And let them reap all of the profit?

I think yall two are agreeing....Orbital Fetus is saying these are things that are related to GMOs in our environment....they want to create seeds/plants that are chemtrail resistant since regular plants in some places are being affected by chemtrails.............get it..................see the old switcheroo.... and old wait for this one.......we got these Struggle Honey Bees right.......bee colonies collapsing, can't figure out where the hell they went too??? :ohhh:..... they are coming up with genetically modified bees yall.... http://naturalsociety.com/monsanto-bee-collapse-buys-bee-research-firm/

Hegelian Dialectic yall = Problem + Reaction + Solution = The problem is honeybee population collapsing (many say b/se of GMO crops based on some pesticides being used, since this is a phenomenon unparalleled in our times, who really knows though) + The reaction is we got to do something because our precious bees pollinate significant amounts of crops + The solution is genetically modified bees

The problem is plants seem to be hurting from extra amounts of aluminum (from chemtrails :whistle:) + The reaction is we need our crops to grow well to keep supplies up + The solution is create GMO crops that have aluminum resistant genes



its just beyond :facepalm:
 

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Wow.

The thing is if people were informed, private citizens could let their dollars talk and just not purchase any genetically modified foods, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't plan on disclosing it. Even if they didn't, there is surely a way for people to let their dollars do the talking, but we have to be organized and informed first.
 
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I think yall two are agreeing....Orbital Fetus is saying these are things that are related to GMOs in our environment....they want to create seeds/plants that are chemtrail resistant since regular plants in some places are being affected by chemtrails.............get it..................see the old switcheroo[/B]....

its just beyond :facepalm:


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I think yall two are agreeing....Orbital Fetus is saying these are things that are related to GMOs in our environment....they want to create seeds/plants that are chemtrail resistant since regular plants in some places are being affected by chemtrails.............get it..................see the old switcheroo.... and old wait for this one.......we got these Struggle Honey Bees right.......bee colonies collapsing, can't figure out where the hell they went too??? :ohhh:..... they are coming up with genetically modified bees yall.... Blamed for Bee Collapse, Monsanto Buys Bee Research Firm

Hegelian Dialectic yall = Problem + Reaction + Solution = The problem is honeybee population collapsing (many say b/se of GMO crops), since this is a phenomenon unparalleled in our times, up in the air though) + The reaction is we got to do something because our precious bees pollinate significant amounts of crops + The solution is genetically modified bees

The problem is plants seem to be hurting from extra amounts of aluminum (from chemtrails :whistle:) + The reaction is we need our crops to grow well to keep supplies up + The solution is create GMO crops that have aluminum resistant genes



its just beyond :facepalm:

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kk first of all..oponents of this bill probably haven't even read the bill:

here's a summary of the bill

Genetically engineered crops are regulated. Once they get approved, farmers can grow them. However, if someone screws something up (like the environmental assessment), the approval can be revoked. This means farmers might be in the position of having crops that were legal when the planted them but illegal now. The thing everyone is up in arms about right now allows farmers to request that the USDA, if they deem it fit, to allow the planted crops to be grown as normal that season and not be destroyed until the GE crop in question can be officially cleared for cultivation again.

This thing isn’t to protect Monsanto, that’s just sensationalist nonsense, it is to protect farmers.
 

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kk first of all..oponents of this bill probably haven't even read the bill:

here's a summary of the bill

Genetically engineered crops are regulated. Once they get approved, farmers can grow them. However, if someone screws something up (like the environmental assessment), the approval can be revoked. This means farmers might be in the position of having crops that were legal when the planted them but illegal now. The thing everyone is up in arms about right now allows farmers to request that the USDA, if they deem it fit, to allow the planted crops to be grown as normal that season and not be destroyed until the GE crop in question can be officially cleared for cultivation again.

This thing isn’t to protect Monsanto, that’s just sensationalist nonsense, it is to protect farmers.

:laff:.... :pachaha: :krs:..... hilarious

This is just MHO......but its pretty clear to see how the strands are connected.......hear me out....it ain't rocket science yall..


I should have posted this article when it happened:


1) In February 2013, Monsanto got into some :fight:s and

GMO fail: Monsanto foiled by feds, Supreme Court, and science Occupy Monsanto

GMO fail: Monsanto foiled by feds, Supreme Court, and science

By Fritz Kreiss | February 17, 2013 |


It’s been a good week if you enjoy a little GMO schadenfreude. The FDA has reportedly bowed to public pressure to extend the comment period on its approval of genetically engineered salmon, and Illinois, Maryland, and Iowa are the latest states to buck GMOs by introducing labeling bills into state legislature.

Even the Supreme Court has an opportunity to take Monsanto down a peg. On Feb. 19, the court will hear arguments in a patent infringement case between an Indiana farmer and Monsanto (I covered it in detail here). If Monsanto prevails, it’ll move a few more paces towards agricultural monopoly; if it loses, the company will take a couple steps back. It’s encouraging that the Supreme Court chose to hear the case over the solicitor general’s urging to dismiss it, but Monsanto could have an inside man: As in other Monsanto-related cases, former Monsanto-lawyer-turned-Supreme-Court-Justice Clarence Thomas has no plans to recuse himself.

But GMOs took the biggest punch this week from academia: Tom Philpott highlights a USDA-funded study [PDF] by University of Wisconsin scientists who found that several types of GMO seeds (including Monsanto’s RoundUp Ready varieties) actually produce a lower yield than conventional seeds. Only one seed — a corn that produces its own pesticide to combat the corn borer — offers any significant yield benefit. In other words, planting most genetically modified seeds results in less harvest per acre than planting non-genetically modified seeds.

The researchers looked at 20 years of data from test plots in Wisconsin from 1990-2010, both on research plots and on plots in participating farmers’ fields. Philpott flags a key point from the study:


Then there’s the question of so-called “stacked-trait” crops — that is, say, corn engineered to contain multiple added genes — for example, Monsanto’s “Smart Stax” product, which contains both herbicide-tolerant and pesticide-expressing genes. The authors detected what they call “gene interaction” in these crops — genes inserted into them interact with each other in ways that affect yield, often negatively. If multiple genes added to a variety didn’t interact, “the [yield] effect of stacked genes would be equal to the sum of the corresponding single gene effects,” the authors write. Instead, the stacked-trait crops were all over the map. “We found strong evidence of gene interactions among transgenic traits when they are stacked,” they write. Most of those effects were negative — i.e., yield was reduced.

This matters because stacked-trait crops are a favored approach to combat the superweeds and bugs that are part and parcel of years of GMO crops. But the more you stack, the worse your yield. The scientists also found evidence of a “yield penalty” that comes simply from the act of manipulating plant genes.

In short, the more one meddles with plant genes, the worse yields get; when you change multiple genes at once, yields drop even further. This should give pause to those who see GMO seeds as the means to address more complex problems like drought tolerance, nutritional value, or plant productivity. These are traits involving dozens, if not hundreds, of genes. This study suggests genetic manipulation of food crops at such a scale is a losing game.

A few years ago, the Union of Concerned Scientists published a report with a similar conclusion, but this is one of the first rigorous attempts to establish through controlled experiments the yield benefit (or penalty) of GM seeds. The UW scientists do note that they determined that GM seeds do provide farmers with lower “yield risk”; essentially, that farmers are less likely to face catastrophic crop losses when using GMO seeds. But there are other conventional techniques that researchers have concluded can support yield, reduce environmental harm, and increase farmer income without having to pay big bucks to biotech companies.

Not that we should expect biotech companies to just roll over: With five such companies controlling nearly 60 percent of the global seed business, it may be impossible for farmers to find sufficient conventional seed. (Learn how the seed business became so consolidated in the Center for Food Safety’s new report “Seed Giants vs. U.S. Farmers.”)

But we should take what we can get. Between Supreme Court justices who may be fed up with the company’s aggressive intellectual property tactics and farmers who could get fed up with its ineffective intellectual property, Monsanto’s stumbles could mean a few sure steps forward for food growers and eaters.

2)^^^ The bolded is the main point......the courts are about to weigh in on GMOs.....and what does this little amendment do.....

The "Monsanto Rider": Are Biotech Companies About to Gain Immunity From Federal Law?

The "Monsanto Rider": Are Biotech Companies About to Gain Immunity From Federal Law?
Sunday, 08 July 2012 10:26 By Alexis Baden-Mayer, AlterNet

A so-called "Monsanto rider," quietly slipped into the multi-billion dollar FY 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill, would require – not just allow, but require - the Secretary of Agriculture to grant a temporary permit for the planting or cultivation of a genetically engineered crop, even if a federal court has ordered the planting be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement is completed. All the farmer or the biotech producer has to do is ask, and the questionable crops could be released into the environment where they could potentially contaminate conventional or organic crops and, ultimately, the nation's food supply.

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n a statement issued last month, the Center For Food Safety had this to say about the biotech industry's latest attempt to circumvent legal and regulatory safeguards:

Ceding broad and unprecedented powers to industry, the rider poses a direct threat to the authority of U.S. courts, jettisons the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) established oversight powers on key agriculture issues and puts the nation's farmers and food supply at risk.

In other words, if this single line in the 90-page Agricultural Appropriations bill slips through, it's Independence Day for the biotech industry.

Greenwood was no doubt referring to several past lawsuits, including one brought in 2007 by the Center for Food safety challenging the legality of the USDA's approval of Monsanto's Roundup Ready alfalfa. In that case, a federal court ruled that the USDA's approval of GMO alfalfa violated environmental laws by failing to analyze risks such as the contamination of conventional and organic alfalfa, the evolution of glyphosate-resistant weeds, and increased use of Roundup. The USDA was forced to undertake a four-year study of GMO alfalfa's impacts under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). During the four-year study, farmers were banned from planting or selling the crop – creating that 'uncertainty" that Greenwood is so worried about.

The Monsanto Rider is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of powers. Judicial review is an essential element of U.S. law, providing a critical and impartial check on government decisions that may negatively impact human health, the environment or livelihoods. Maintaining the clear-cut boundary of a Constitutionally-guaranteed separation of powers is essential to our government. This provision will blur that line.

· Judicial review is a gateway, not a roadblock. Congress should be fully supportive of our nation's independent judiciary. The ability of courts to review, evaluate and judge an issue that impacts public and environmental health is a strength, not a weakness, of our system. The loss of this fundamental safeguard could leave public health, the environment and livelihoods at risk.

· It removes the "legal brakes" that prevent fraud and abuse. In recent years, federal courts have ruled that several USDA GE crop approvals violated the law and required further study of their health and environmental impact. These judgments indicated that continued planting would cause harm to the environment and/or farmers and ordered interim planting restrictions pending further USDA analysis and consideration. The Monsanto rider would prevent a federal court from putting in place court-ordered restrictions, even if the approval were fraudulent or involved bribery.

· It's unnecessary and duplicative. Every court dealing with these issues is supposed to carefully weigh the interests of all affected farmers and consumers, as is already required by law. No farmer has ever had his or her crops destroyed as a result. USDA already has working mechanisms in place to allow partial approvals, and the Department has used them, making this provision completely unnecessary.

· It shuts out the USDA. The rider would not merely allow, it would compel the Secretary of Agriculture to immediately grant any requests for permits to allow continued planting and commercialization of an unlawfully approved GE crop. With this provision in place, USDA may not be able to prevent costly contamination episodes like Starlink or Liberty Link rice, which have already cost farmers hundreds of millions of dollars in losses. The rider would also make a mockery of USDA's legally mandated review, transforming it into a 'rubber stamp' approval process.

Hence, this Tester Amendment/Monsanto Rider (though I heard Barbara Mikulski from Maryland had some influence with this too) is a reaction to these court cases and other recent events slamming down on GMOs..... just my thoughts... :yeshrug:
 
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Wtf is goin on man....

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