Obama brought hip-hop to the White House

[Soundwave]

Ricky knew it would happen to him one day

 

[Piff Perkins]

The more I think it about it there is something rebellious about Cole not wearing a suit. Usually when you get invited to the white house the code has always been a formal attire. Now if you've been following Cole lately he's been on this I'm a do me and fukk everybody else flow. But I wonder if it's deeper than that keep in mind he has said some disparaging comments about our president in the past.

Kendrick dressed even worse when he met Obama lol.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

wow he brought rapsody

 

[No1]

Kendrick dressed even worse when he met Obama lol.

These cats want to say they "kept it real" at the Whitehouse. But besides that, sometimes, I almost wish Obama was not the president right now and that it was Hillary. And I say that only because black people don't want to criticize the status quo because of how protective they are of Obama. That's eventually what drove people like Cornel West nuts.

 

[Uncle Kendrick]

Kendrick dressed even worse when he met Obama lol.

Nice deflection but we talking Cole not Kendrick

 

[10:31]

Ricky knew it would happen to him one day

 

[Piff Perkins]

These cats want to say they "kept it real" at the Whitehouse. But besides that, sometimes, I almost wish Obama was not the president right now and that it was Hillary. And I say that only because black people don't want to criticize the status quo because of how protective they are of Obama. That's eventually what drove people like Cornel West nuts.

The lack of pressure from the left hurt Obama, sure. But like you said earlier it's hard to discuss him without acknowledging the historic obstruction he had to deal with. How do you want him to be more left when even being to the middle wasn't enough to make republicans act civilized. Even now they're disrespecting him with the Supreme Court justice vacancy. So people defend him and rightfully so. But I'm proud of any black man that rises above the antagonism he faces and does well.

My uncle always talks about how in sports a black guy gets hired when a team is in the trash. And then gets fired after they do the heavy lifting, then a white guy comes in and gets the credit. They tried to do that to Obama with Romney. I laugh at all these republicans saying the country is trash now. If Romney was running for re-election right now and unemployment was 5% and gas was this low people would be calling him the GOAT. Instead they want to act like we're in a disaster zone lmao.

 

[AMcV'88]

Cole turned up the White House in long johns.
he really is just as much a gimmicky rapper as Rick Ross.

Rocky was there also ?



Obama asking young Rocky for some advice on what to wear once he finishes up at the White House.

 

[No1]

The lack of pressure from the left hurt Obama, sure. But like you said earlier it's hard to discuss him without acknowledging the historic obstruction he had to deal with. How do you want him to be more left when even being to the middle wasn't enough to make republicans act civilized. Even now they're disrespecting him with the Supreme Court justice vacancy. So people defend him and rightfully so. But I'm proud of any black man that rises above the antagonism he faces and does well.

My uncle always talks about how in sports a black guy gets hired when a team is in the trash. And then gets fired after they do the heavy lifting, then a white guy comes in and gets the credit. They tried to do that to Obama with Romney. I laugh at all these republicans saying the country is trash now. If Romney was running for re-election right now and unemployment was 5% and gas was this low people would be calling him the GOAT. Instead they want to act like we're in a disaster zone lmao.

Here's the thing, you can argue for a move to the left without disrespecting Obama. Clinton is hanging on his coattails as if Sanders supporters are anti-Obama when for the majority of us, Obama was our first vote and second vote for President. He still has good approval ratings with our age group. In other words, the young part of the Obama coalition is now supporting Sanders. It's also possible to defend Obama and criticize his more moderate inclinations.

Moreover, you guys keep viewing politics as if the status quo is a static thing. 10 years ago gay marriage was a non-starter. Society does not change unless you continuously push. What happened to Democrats is that they started playing the money game like Republicans. So now they elect people who are good fundraisers instead of good politicians or people. If Republicans are so far to the right, and you're in the middle, then you're effectively advocating for center-right legislation. Remember, it was "blue dog" Democrats that dragged out the drafting of the Obamacare bill and who ultimately would not support a public option. It was the Joe Lieberman's of the world. The current head of the DNC is pushing for big tobacco and payday lending. Basically, Obama's own party has moved further to the right while it's base has moved further to the left. Clinton is the frontrunner and her foreign policy is to the right of the entire base. Moreover, unemployment and gas are low, but those numbers do not reflect the true economic climate. People are still struggling, and are working two or three jobs. People are underemployed. Part of the problems Democrats have is that this is the most educated generation ever so we have other metric to use. Somewhere in people's heads they got it that a vote for Sanders is a repudiation of Obama--no it's an acknowledgements of the limits of the Democratic status quo. He was the right guy to navigate that, and now we want to move on from it.

 

[Nicely]

I love my Johnnie brother J.Cole, and I thought the event was nice, but come on breh. You can't vist the president looking like that.

I wonder what Obama reaction was

I was going to say, I'm glad J. Cole dressed for the occasion.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Here's the thing, you can argue for a move to the left without disrespecting Obama. Clinton is hanging on his coattails as if Sanders supporters are anti-Obama when for the majority of us, Obama was our first vote and second vote for President. He still has good approval ratings with our age group. In other words, the young part of the Obama coalition is now supporting Sanders. It's also possible to defend Obama and criticize his more moderate inclinations.

Moreover, you guys keep viewing politics as if the status quo is a static thing. 10 years ago gay marriage was a non-starter. Society does not change unless you continuously push. What happened to Democrats is that they started playing the money game like Republicans. So now they elect people who are good fundraisers instead of good politicians or people. If Republicans are so far to the right, and you're in the middle, then you're effectively advocating for center-right legislation. Remember, it was "blue dog" Democrats that dragged out the drafting of the Obamacare bill and who ultimately would not support a public option. It was the Joe Lieberman's of the world. The current head of the DNC is pushing for big tobacco and payday lending. Basically, Obama's own party has moved further to the right while it's base has moved further to the left. Clinton is the frontrunner and her foreign policy is to the right of the entire base. Moreover, unemployment and gas are low, but those numbers do not reflect the true economic climate. People are still struggling, and are working two or three jobs. People are underemployed. Part of the problems Democrats have is that this is the most educated generation ever so we have other metric to use. Somewhere in people's heads they got it that a vote for Sanders is a repudiation of Obama--no it's an acknowledgements of the limits of the Democratic status quo. He was the right guy to navigate that, and now we want to move on from it.

I don't view it as static. You're right, it moves. But at the same time we can't just look at a couple issues and argue the party has become center-right. The party has moved to the left over the last ten years on most issues. This is why the party is struggling on the ground level, and why southern democrats are dying out. Obama was more to the left than many House democrats who have been wiped out since 2010. The goal now should be rebuilding the party in those districts, especially after the 2020 census.

I wouldn't compare DWS to the overall focus of the party, which has moved leftwards. DWS actively helps elect republicans in Florida because she's friends with people.

The economy isn't perfect but it is far better than it was. The problem is that the future of the economy will not look anything like the past. Contrary to the ducktales Bernie Sanders is selling, manufacturing will never return to the United States. In many ways we're moving into a service economy during this transition period before automation eliminates a lot of jobs. In the meantime it's essential people get an education and be ready for major destabilization. The solution there also isn't Bernie Sanders' ducktales about "free" college, or even Hillary's plan. The more likely thing that'll happen is some type of expansion of community college access, which won't do enough but can give folks a shot at preparing for the future.

I think a lot of democrat policies simply are no realistic and they're promising a future that does not exist.

 

[No1]

I don't view it as static. You're right, it moves. But at the same time we can't just look at a couple issues and argue the party has become center-right. The party has moved to the left over the last ten years on most issues. This is why the party is struggling on the ground level, and why southern democrats are dying out. Obama was more to the left than many House democrats who have been wiped out since 2010. The goal now should be rebuilding the party in those districts, especially after the 2020 census.

I wouldn't compare DWS to the overall focus of the party, which has moved leftwards. DWS actively helps elect republicans in Florida because she's friends with people.

The economy isn't perfect but it is far better than it was. The problem is that the future of the economy will not look anything like the past. Contrary to the ducktales Bernie Sanders is selling, manufacturing will never return to the United States. In many ways we're moving into a service economy during this transition period before automation eliminates a lot of jobs. In the meantime it's essential people get an education and be ready for major destabilization. The solution there also isn't Bernie Sanders' ducktales about "free" college, or even Hillary's plan. The more likely thing that'll happen is some type of expansion of community college access, which won't do enough but can give folks a shot at preparing for the future.

I think a lot of democrat policies simply are no realistic and they're promising a future that does not exist.

If you do not think the Democratic Party has moved to the right on economic issues then I do not know what to tell you. The party has not moved to the left on anything besides social issues like gay marriage, LGBT rights, and to a certain degree embracing things like Black Lives Matters (but that's a generational divide). On the core economic principles, the party is still right where it was in the 1990s. If the party was really moving to the left then the most liberal generation of all time would be supporting its frontrunner.

DWS, is emblematic of the party. No seriously, have you not seen all the people Democrats are putting up in these elections? They are trying to fight off every progressive challenger. That is so patently false that I'm offended. I was working in Congress when Democrats were trying to expand the tent. They specifically targeted blue dog Democrats and even former Republicans. You keep talking abut "rebuilding the party," but you never state what type of party. Is it going to be a center-right party (which it currently is by any logical sense of the word in the global context) or will be it be a progressive party? THAT IS THE FIGHT.

Sanders never said the old manufacturing jobs are coming back, he said we should renegotiate out trade deals and try to produce more in the US. What he did say was that we need to rebuild our infrastructure (which everyone knows) and that would create jobs (also not contested). Second, we are not "transitioning" into a service economy. We have been that for awhile. Third, you never said why college plans are bad you just said you think it's unrealistic. Except, something being politically difficult and financial impossible are two different things. Sanders never said any of this is going to happen magically. He believes in mass mobilization--and for good reason--all the major changes in American history have been the result of that. You basically just said you do believe things are static. No one voting for Sanders is naive enough to think this stuff is happening tomorrow, but it is a symbolic victory and presents a new democratic agenda.

 

[lightbearerchef]

Meek at home on some:

Obezelle aint tryna hear all that yellin. All them coo calm & collected niccas in that room

 

[RAW_SPK]

Mannnn Rick won






Ross got some of the most pro black bars I've ever heard


Pissin on Europeans


Killing Zimmerman


Lol..

fukk OBAMACARE I WANT A KILO!!!!

Ross gon go down as one of the most intriguing rappers of the 2000s

 

[Tony D'Amato]

What exactly has Cole said about Obeezy? I dont listen to him like dat. W/ him being an overrated homo and all