NYC public schools revamp Gifted & Talented, eliminate testing

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DOE Will End Gifted and Talented Test After This Year


The Education Department will administer an entrance exam for its gifted and talented programs to four-year-olds this spring -- but it will be the last time.

The city’s gifted and talented programs have become a flashpoint in recent years, as Mayor de Blasio has pledged to diversify city classrooms, whih are among the nation’s most segregated.

What You Need To Know
  • The Education Department will administer an entrance exam for its gifted and talented programs to four-year-olds this spring -- but it will be the last time




    • The programs have become a flashpoint in recent years amid pushes to diversify city schools
    • The city will spend the next year getting feedback to create a new accelerated program
Like the controversial specialized high school admissions process, entrance is determined by a single, high-stakes exam -- but in this case, an exam given to four-year-olds. Critics say that makes it a better determiner of privilege -- some toddlers are tutored for the test -- than of talent.

But the program has supporters from across the political spectrum -- and among many parents -- who have argued the city ought to increase the number of seats available rather than scrap it.

Students applying to attend city kindergartens in fall of 2021 will still take the exam this year, and it will be given in person beginning in April.

“For our youngest learners, we must move forward and develop a system that reimagines accelerated learning and enrichment,” NYC Department of Education spokeswoman Miranda Barbot said. “At the same time, we want to honor the fact that families have been planning kindergarten admissions for many months now. We will develop new plans for identifying and serving exceptional students and release them for the next enrollment cycle.”

A proposed contract for the test company Pearson to administer the exam was posted Tuesday evening, ahead of a vote by the Panel for Education Policy on January 27.

The test is normally given in January, but the department says families will receive scores in the early summer, and will have enough time to apply to gifted and talented programs before the school year start.

While the test will be scrapped next year, the future of the program is less clear; the DOE plans to spend the next year determining what it might look like through a community engagement process.

“We will spend the next year engaging communities around what kind of programming they would like to see that is more inclusive, enriching, and truly supports the needs of academically advanced and diversely talented students at a more appropriate age,” Barbot said. “We will also engage communities around how best to integrate enriched learning opportunities to more students, so that every student – regardless of a label or a class that they are in – can access rigorous learning that is tailored to their needs and fosters their creativity, passion, and strengths.”

In 2019, a task force assembled by the mayor to help increase diversity in schools recommended that the city no longer track students deem gifted and talented into separate classes from their peers. The task force was co-chaired by Maya Wiley, who is running for mayor.

The classes are disproportionately Asian and white compared to the school system at large: 20% of all kindergartners this school year were Asian, but Asian students accounted for 43% of kindergartners in gifted and talented programs. White students accounted for 20% of all kindergartners but 36% of gifted and talented students.

Meanwhile, while 40% percent of all kindergarten students are Hispanic, they make up only 8% of the kindergartners in gifted and talented. And while 17% of all kindergartners this year are Black, just 6% of gifted and talented kindergartners were Black.

The programs see high demand for comparatively few seats: about 15,000 students apply each year, for just 2,500 kindergarten slots. Those seats are seen as a track for getting into the city’s most competitive middle and high schools.

Students who are already in gifted and talented programs, and those who start this fall, will be able to complete their elementary school program.

While the mayor has been outspoken about his opposition to using a single, high-stakes test for high school admissions, he's previously not taken a clear stand on the gifted and talented exam. This change comes in the final year of his mayoralty, and would go into effect essentially as a new mayor takes office.
 
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i cant wait to see what their new plan is which somehow will marginalize children of color. specifically black and latino.

i just listened to this long podcast on NYC education and race issue specifically when it comes to the black students/areas.
 

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i cant wait to see what their new plan is which somehow will marginalize children of color. specifically black and latino.

i just listened to this long podcast on NYC education and race issue specifically when it comes to the black students/areas.
I'm interested in what the response will be from the educated and accomplished set from those communities.
In response to the dismal Stuyvesant High admission numbers, several Black and Latino Stuyvesant and Brooklyn Tech alumni put their resources and brain power together to offer free tutoring and support to help groom future students.
The elite of the Chinese and Indian American communities are the ones who put the tutoring infrastructures in places for their communities.
 

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I'm interested in what the response will be from the educated and accomplished set from those communities.
In response to the dismal Stuyvesant High admission numbers, several Black and Latino Stuyvesant and Brooklyn Tech alumni put their resources and brain power together to offer free tutoring and support to help groom future students.
The elite of the Chinese and Indian American communities are the ones who put the tutoring infrastructures in places for their communities.
Yeah but this is the exact game people are tired of.
 

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i cant wait to see what their new plan is which somehow will marginalize children of color. specifically black and latino.

i just listened to this long podcast on NYC education and race issue specifically when it comes to the black students/areas.
Got a link?
 

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If this will force the children of the White gentrifiers moving to this city to soak up its resources to mingle with the general populace then I'm all for it

You can't have people moving into neighborhoods that were shytty for the longest, gentrifying the fukk out of them, but then sending their kids to the "good" schools outside of that neighborhood

And from what I've been reading, this is the type of shyt these White and Asian parents are on in NYC
 

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NYC to phase out separate classes for 'gifted and talented' students


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Oct. 08, 2021

Mayor Bill de Blasio will essentially end the public school gifted and talented program in its current form — eliminating a high-stakes test for four-year-olds and no longer separating out students deemed gifted into separate classes.

What You Need To Know
  • Mayor Bill de Blasio will essentially end the public school gifted and talented program in its current form

    • The city will eliminate the use of a high-stakes test given to four-year-olds and will stop separating children into gifted classes

    • The city says it will instead provide those students with accelerated learning within mixed-ability classrooms

The test has typically admitted only about 2,500 kindergartners a year into the gifted and talented program — a tiny fraction of the city’s school children. But those who have already been admitted to the separate classes will remain in them until they’ve graduated them.

“As a lifelong educator, what we all know is that no single test should be determining any child’s future," Chancellor Meisha Porter said on Friday during an appearance with Mayor de Blasio on WNYC. “There are so many more students who are gifted, who are talented, who are brilliant, who have special gifts and I think this is the moment about creating opportunities for all students to demonstrate their powerful learning abilities and for teachers to really tap into those gifts.”

The announcement will be deeply unpopular with parents who view the program as a reason to remain in public schools, but applauded by others who believe the program worsens classroom segregation. It comes with just three months left in the mayor’s final term in office.

Instead of using separate classes, the city says it will instead offer “accelerated instruction” to all students. That will begin in fall of 2022 with a new model for all elementary schools that the city says will serve 26 times more students than the current program — reaching 65,000 instead of 2,500.

“This is a really exciting day and the chancellor and I are so happy that we’re going to be ending something that I think was a mistake all along—a single test for 4 year olds that determines so much of their future,” de Blasio said on WNYC. “We’re going to reach tens of thousands more kids with accelerated learning. This is a really important day for New York City.”

At third grade, students will be universally screened by subject area to see if they would benefit from tailored accelerated instruction — but they’ll remain in classes with children of all ability.

The accelerated instruction will include “learning with projects based on real-world problems students need to solve using advanced skills,” the education department says.

The overhaul will be rolled out to all 800 schools with elementary students and this year the city will train all 4,000 kindergarten teachers in accelerated instruction, which the department says will reach children in areas with historically little access to gifted and talented programing.

The city will also launch seven borough-wide teams of accelerate instruction experts, and hold engagement sessions with parents in October and November — though parents who wanted to have input on the plan will likely be frustrated that it’s been announced before those sessions.

The city aims to roll out the plan fully in December — the mayor’s final month in office. That will leave it to the next mayor to implement. Democratic nominee Eric Adams, de Blasio’s likely successor, has been skeptical about ending gifted and talented programs. It’s unclear how quickly he could pivot to instead implement a program of his own.

“Eric will assess the plan and reserves his right to implement policies based on the needs of students and parents, should he become mayor," Adams spokesperson Evan Thies said in a statement. "Clearly the Department of Education must improve outcomes for children from lower-income areas.”

The announcement is being made on a Friday — the one day of the week de Blasio typically does not hold a press conference. That means that beyond his weekly radio appearance on WNYC, he likely will not face questions on the plan from the broader press corps until next week.
 
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How does gifted and talented work in NY beyond this test? Are the only two routes into it being tested before kindergarten and high school? If so, I’d say that’s the problem, not necessarily gifted and talented programs. Also, are the GATE classes a class of kids at a normal school or are there whole schools for these kids?
 

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Gifted and talented programs are segregation and clearly saying the normal classes aren't good.
 
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