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:mjlol:At a dude that poisoned a kid, turned down a consulting position that would've paid him well and given him access to the best healthcare so he can continue selling drugs, putting him and his family in danger and teamed up with white supremacists among other things "wasn't that unlikable."
 
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show was dope from the beginning, vince really set that up lovely from the first ep :wow:

when Gus came, it was added greatness :wow:

shout out the dudes that watched BB from the first ep, no netflix shyt :salute:
 
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It was fire from episode one :camby:
The first three episodes combo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Krazy 8 killing has to be one of the most underrated moments in the entire series.
I agree that Vic mackey was a scumbag, but Walt was extremely unlikeable; he watched Jessie's girl die, he used Jessie tons of ways, he poisoned a child, he killed Mike for no fukking reason, Walt did many things to make you hate him, so I disagree with you on that. The only criticism I have for BB is the Skylar and Ted storyline; it really made me root for Walt more than Skylar which hurt the story for me
I still cheer (well not cheer but feel satisfied) when Skylar tells Walt she fukked Ted :manny:
Deserved it imo.
My sympathy for him resided in his relationship with Junior and Jesse.
Stopped rooting for him completely in season four though.
 
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Season 1 was incredible, but after that it was meh. But dudes are actually ranking this higher than the holy trinity of The Wire, Mad Men, and Sopranos.

And they couldn't even make Walt unlikable like they promised. They tried 5 or 6 different ways in season 5 and none of it worked.

Vic Mackey character is the way you make someone unlikable.

You're getting "unlikeable" mixed up with "people actually not liking him". Tony Soprano was extremely unlikeable....he was a murderer, racist, petty....a whole spectrum of negative personality traits and people were still :lupe: at the prospect of him dying because they like the character. It doesn't mean they'd eat lunch with the guy, because he is in fact unlikeable.

The Vic Mackey comparison is one of the most :what: things I've seen on this board. Of course he's more unlikeable, episode 1 he's a scum bag corrupt cop. He'd been a corrupt cop for a while. Walt is a school teacher and generally a nice guy when we meet him. "BB" is about a good man turning into a bad guy. If you think they failed at that :manny: you're in the extreme minority.

Then again we're sitting in a thread that starts with "is it safe to say?" on a board that voted "BB" the #2 show of all time, so logic is whatever at this point.

Fred.
 

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This scene is when it went from a good drama to :ohhh:

I also consider it the birth of Heisenberg
 

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What you think breh? Drop your opinions.

Fred.
Flames.

So much foreshadowing
Small subtle things (music, flies)

I loved my man's jesse. He was so depressed but compassionate.

I started to hate Walt after rooting for him but then he made me like him again

Hank was cool

Todd was lowkey a dope ass character. He simped Lydia.

Gus was dope...the way they tied his death to Theo and shyt was hot.

Umm...I need a epilogue.

1. Did they really give Flynn the money.

2. What's jesse doing now?

3. Did they find hank.

4. Is skylar doing good?
 

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Flames.

So much foreshadowing
Small subtle things (music, flies)

I loved my man's jesse. He was so depressed but compassionate.

I started to hate Walt after rooting for him but then he made me like him again

Hank was cool

Todd was lowkey a dope ass character. He simped Lydia.

Gus was dope...the way they tied his death to Theo and shyt was hot.

Umm...I need a epilogue.

1. Did they really give Flynn the money.

2. What's jesse doing now?

3. Did they find hank.

4. Is skylar doing good?

1, 2 dunno. Keep in mind "Better Call Saul" takes place before, during and after "Breaking Bad" though, so it's possible to see any character or event.

3. I'd guess so, Walt gave Skyler the lotto ticket with the coordinates to where they were buried as a bargaining chip.

4. Probably not, for the foreseeable future. Even though they (eventually) have millions coming the kids have no father, they're currently broke and still under investigation for Walt's crimes, and they have to live with the rep of being related to a drug lord. Which is kinda cool to me. :notbad:

Side note, here's my opinion on how the show is written, that I posted in another thread:

Are you familiar with the term "clockwork universe"? It basically means, no matter how 3 dimensional or deep a character seems, ultimately they're only a function of the plot. Or more specifically, any side character or sub plot is only important in direct relation to the actions the protagonist takes.

Most fiction, movies, TV, novels, whatever, try to hide this, for obvious reasons. "BB" went in the extreme opposite direction, and embraced it completely.

Some people say there's no consequences for Walt's actions. I disagree 100%. There was severe consequences, just not for Walt. Which is probably :what: to read, but let me explain.

By the end of "BB" 270 people had died, most of them directly (or indirectly) due to the plot armor Walt has. So let's say they kill Walt in season 1. Or season 2. Or season 3. The shorter Walt's life, the more people survive.

So the point wasn't, Walt is in danger. The point literally was, Walt IS the danger. It wasn't just a cool line.

The writers even not-so-subtly pointed this out, via Jesse in the season 5B episode "Rabid Dog":

Jesse, to Hank and Gomez: "Listen, you two guys....are just guys. Mr. White, he's the devil. You know, he is....he is smarter than you, he is luckier than you. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, I'm telling you the exact reverse opposite of that is gonna happen".

He's flat out telling them "Walt is the protagonist, you are side characters". They smugly assure him they have it under control. Within two episodes of that exchange they're both dead, and Jesse is being tortured. They didn't know their place in the clockwork universe.

Even the most ridiculous, cartoonish "outs" Walt was given, like the giant magnet, had horrific consequences for literally everyone but Walt. It directly lead to the deaths of Mike, his 11 guys, Peter Schuler, Drew Sharp...and set in motion the rest of season 5B, too.

So yeah, Walt was able to escape death and consequences....at the expense of everyone around him. That's the point of the show. That's why his admission "I did it for me" was so powerful in the finale.

Fred.
 
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