Number of the Week: Most Unemployed Have College Experience

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By Phil Izzo

52%: Percent of the unemployed who have spent at least some time in college.

In a significant shift in the labor market, the majority of people who are unemployed have some college education, reversing the situation that prevailed for decades. In 1992, only 37% of the unemployed had some college experience.

The change is unfolding amid a torpid jobs market, where more time in school translates into lower unemployment and higher wages.

In May 4.8 million of the 9.2 million people older than 25 looking for work had spent at least some time in college, while 48% of the unemployed had only completed high school.

The shift is due primarily to changing demographics in the U.S. A larger share of the population is attending college than ever before. In October of last year, 68.3% of 2011 high school graduates were enrolled in colleges or universities, according to the Labor Department.

As more people seek higher education, a greater share of the labor force has college experience. So, while 52% of the unemployed have attended college, a much larger 65% of those with jobs have attended—that is up from 53% in 1992.

Since it is more likely that a younger worker will have some college experience, older workers retiring or dropping out of the labor force exacerbate the trend. The share of the workforce with a degree has been rising for decades, while the % with a high-school diploma or less has been falling. For the first time in 2003, the average person in the labor force was more likely to have a bachelor’s degree or higher than to be just a high-school graduate.

As the educational attainment of the general population shifts, recent labor-force entrants who don’t go on to college face an even tougher environment. In 2011, every step up the school ladder translated into a lower unemployment rate and higher pay. People with a professional degree were at the top of the heap with an unemployment rate of 2.4% and a median wage of $1,665 a week. On the bottom were those without a high school diploma, posting a 14.1% unemployment rate and $451 in median weekly earnings.

The difference is particularly stark among young workers. In May, the unemployment rate for 16-24 year old high-school dropouts was 28%, while those in that age group with a bachelor’s degree or higher had just a 6.8% jobless rate.

There is one area on the education ladder where the benefits are less clear—the difference between high-school graduates and college dropouts. In general, even a little college has been better than none for workers, but that difference appears to be narrowing. In 2011, workers with just a high-school diploma had an unemployment rate of 9.4%, it was 8.7% for college dropouts. Compare that with the 6.8% rate for those with an associate degree.

College dropouts might have slightly better chances in the job market than their peers with just a high-school education, but they also have lost out on work experience and often accumulated student-loan debt. On the positive side, there is no indication that more college students are dropping out. The share of the workforce with some higher education but no degree has barely changed over the past 20 years, even amid larger shifts at both ends of the spectrum.

Number of the Week: Most Unemployed Have College Experience - Real Time Economics - WSJ
 

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College is becoming worthless unless you want to be a lawyer, engineer or a doctor. Most jobs are crafts that can be learned by simply doing the work and shouldn't require too much college outside of maybe a few specific credits.
 

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College is becoming worthless unless you want to be a lawyer, engineer or a doctor. Most jobs are crafts that can be learned by simply doing the work and shouldn't require too much college outside of maybe a few specific credits.

No. That's if you only view college as a means to get a job.
 

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As of a recently, I've realized that college is overrated and knowledge is underrated

I mean, while I look at college as taking a series of courses, unless you're going

into a technical part that requires extensive learning. You know DR., Lawyers,

Teachers( :yes: ), Engineers, Scientist, Mathematician. Most of the information

can be obtained through a series of books at the local library. Besides the

busy work, college is also a place for socializing, networking and meeting

like minded people. This should be pretty easy for everyone to understand.

A real problem, Americans aren't reading enough. Look how many people are

viewing HL / KTL compared to other parts of the site. Sure a pupil can go

to the library and read a bunch of books, but there's no clear way of

evaluating whether or not that pupil actually read a series of books

on a subject like history. What was the pupils retention rate?

Can the pupil apply the knowledge(know the ledge). What significant

issues of the past, are reoccurring in modern society. For example, the I

always cite the French Revolution. This is the point of college.

http://www.history.com/topics/french-revolution

At the end of the day, you have to remember that college doesn't = employment

We need more innovators. There are people who come here with no education

and make it to the top.
 

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As of a recently, I've realized that college is overrated and knowledge is underrated

I mean, while I look at college as taking a series of courses, unless you're going

into a technical part that requires extensive learning. You know DR., Lawyers,

Teachers( :yes: ), Engineers, Scientist, Mathematician. Most of the information

can be obtained through a series of books at the local library. Besides the

busy work, college is also a place for socializing, networking and meeting

like minded people.
This should be pretty easy for everyone to understand.

A real problem, Americans aren't reading enough. Look how many people are

viewing HL / KTL compared to other parts of the site. Sure a pupil can go

to the library and read a bunch of books, but there's no clear way of

evaluating whether or not that pupil actually read a series of books

on a subject like history. What was the pupils retention rate?

Can the pupil apply the knowledge(know the ledge). What significant

issues of the past, are reoccurring in modern society. For example, the I

always cite the French Revolution. This is the point of college.

French Revolution — History.com Articles, Video, Pictures and Facts

At the end of the day, you have to remember that college doesn't = employment

We need more innovators. There are people who come here with no education

and make it to the top.
 

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That is the only reason why the college industry is still in business.

Yeah I realized this is why the majority of people go to college and complain later on.

I mean, you have to see it for what it is. I know the attitude. I majored in

blah blah blah, sohh that I can make my $50,000 a year and stunt on this

hoes :stylin:. Now I can't get a job. :smh: College is shame, f*ck them. F*ck

Sallie Mae. :stopitslime: The writing has always been on the wall.

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lots of people treated college like highschool now its biting them in the ass because they have no job, and they owe money :ahh:
 

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SMMFH.

having "college experience" is not the same as having "a college degree".

College serves the purpose of getting qualifications to get employment. If you are going for any other reason you shouldn't be going.
 

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People (like myself) go to college right after high school because their parents and society tell them it's what they have to do and anything less will get you mocked. Most people don't even know what they want to major in and are just wasting their time (like myself). fukkouttahere with the "you're gonna meet new people and have a great experience" nikka I can do that for free instead of accumulating horrific debt :pacspit:
 

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most students don't even know what they want to do AFTER they get their bachelors degree.

like others have said, unless you're trying to be a doctor or attorney, i think it's smarter to start at the bottom in the corporate world, find out what you actually want to do and then just get some sort of certification in it.

you can then work your way up from there, opposed to going 80K in debt with school loans and still not knowing what career route you should take when you finish your undergrad.

most job postings now list job experience as being the equivalent of a 4-year degree anyways.
 

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so you're willing to spend 100K just for a fun experience? You could tour the world for less money and learn more valuable lessons.

Don't put words in my mouth. College is also a great opportunity to network and it's still the most logical step to social mobility. There are different avenues opened to you, but if you spend 100K for college then that's on you. If your family can't afford that then you should have better guidance. If you took out that much in loans then you played the game wrong. You should blame bad guidance counselors and people being uninformed. I got what I bargained for out of college.
 
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